FROST DK PVP

General Discussion
After finally getting to lvl 90 and getting somewhat geared i wanted to test out pvp (bgs + world)as a level 90 and in full 90 gear i cant even kill a non level 90 easily.in bgs im never @ top of the dps chart.why does my dps sucks? i dueled a hunter (dps test) with the same kind of pvp gear (same resil). poped all my CDs and couldnt kill him. while he poped 2 cds and it was instant loss for me lolPeople say Frost dks are powerfull but from what im experincing thei horrible!maybe im doing something wrong? here is my rotation >>>I start off with a howling blast to apply frost fever > Oblv then frost strike then runes r on CD and i have lots of runin power.am i doing it right?please feel free to inpect my talents and giving me some help...thanks :)hope the dps gets highest because i cant kill anything :(
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So yeah... Thats my main.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravenholdt/Mougen/advanced

A few things of note here to help

Stat wise

Haste>Crit>Mastery

Enchant your items if you haven't

Good macros.

Death pact
#showtooltip
#show
/castsequence reset=120 Raise Dead, Death Pact

Lich-heal
#showtooltip Lichborne
/cast !Lichborne;
/cast [target=player] Death Coil

Burst
#showtooltip Pillar of Frost
/castsequence reset=55 Pillar of Frost, Remorseless Winter, Unholy Blight

Make sure you're using your cool downs like AMS and IBF effectively

Hope that helps.
Frost DK's are literally tearing BG's up right now. I think like you said, maybe it's just a matter of you practicing everything at 90.
i do have trouble staying alive, try going blood presence for bgs it helps alot and dmg doesnt go down that much, but i do have to say those 150k oblit critz are nice lol
Also your talents are all over the place.

Conversion is no good for frost dks. You need that RP to dump into frost strike to regain your runes. Death pact costs nothing and is a much larger burst heal.

Purgatory is just trash for pvp, lichborne breaks fears and can heal you with the maco I posted if you have enough rp.

Runic corruption is much better for UH dks. You're better off with blood tap or what I use, runic empowerment.

Chillbanes is a MUST HAVE when it comes to getting into melee range and kiting other melee in times of need. Seeing as your HB will put this slow on it's up all the time. The stun from asphyxiate is nice, but the cd isn't.

Personally I like the stun/slow from endless winter, but each of the level 90 talents have a place in pvp.
10/01/2012 09:55 PMPosted by Missysky
Haste>Crit>Mastery


Crit is the worst possible thing for a frost dk
Yo Missy, so haste is now the necessity stat for DKs in pvp? It was usually mastery, and haste for pve.

Crit has always been trash for Frost DKs imo.
thank you so much all for the help and tips :)
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/moon-guard/Andry/advanced

Copy all his stuff, become a legend in PvP.
Yo Missy, so haste is now the necessity stat for DKs in pvp? It was usually mastery, and haste for pve.

Crit has always been trash for Frost DKs imo.


crit has always been bad for frost dks. ALWAYS. It's Mastery > Haste> Crit atm.
I've seen 2 folks say crit over mastery which confused the hell out of me. Crit has always sucked for DKs.
i was trying unholy and at 85 i do 30k with half cata but at 90 i do 13k..... someone plz tell me if recount is broken or if im glitched plz lol
10/01/2012 10:17 PMPosted by Theeverybest
i was trying unholy and at 85 i do 30k with half cata but at 90 i do 13k..... someone plz tell me if recount is broken or if im glitched plz lol
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/84095 is the problem.
stat priority for 2h is haste>crit>mastery in pve, but in pvp you may want mastery over crit just cause you'll be using howling blast quite a bit more, also use some necrotic strikes I think you still use that in MoP
Yo Missy, so haste is now the necessity stat for DKs in pvp? It was usually mastery, and haste for pve.

Crit has always been trash for Frost DKs imo.


I should be clear, this is for 2H frost dks.

Haste and crit are important for 2h frost because the spec and pretty much become about spamming and criting with oblit as much as possible.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=81333/might-of-the-frozen-wastes

^
The more you crit with obliterate the better. Spamming FS and HB even when you're stacking mastery won't keep up.

Now if you're DW frost you would go

Mastery>Haste>Crit

and do just that.
10/01/2012 10:18 PMPosted by Kiell
stat priority for 2h is haste>crit>mastery in pve, but in pvp you may want mastery over crit just cause you'll be using howling blast quite a bit more, also use some necrotic strikes I think you still use that in MoP


You can go mastery>crit if you want for pvp. Personally I think crit is better but it's about play style. As for necrotic strike, you use it as uh, but for frost it takes a deathrune. Pretty much that's one less oblit which is going to end up doing more over all than the necrotic strike because of motfw.
10/01/2012 10:18 PMPosted by Karob
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/84095 is the problem


is it really that bad doc?
10/01/2012 10:25 PMPosted by Theeverybest
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/84095 is the problem


is it really that bad doc?
It's a green item, it's automatically bad.

Run some heroics, Gleaming Ravager, the sword of that Undead in Scholo or the Sword off Durand are way better.

Also http://www.noxxic.com/wow/pve/death-knight/frost
It's a green item, it's automatically bad.Run some heroics, Gleaming Ravager, the sword of that Undead in Scholo or the Sword off Durand are way better.Also http://www.noxxic.com/wow/pve/death-knight/frost


omg u make feel super mega sucky >:( thx anyway tho! neeeded that info
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/84095 is the problem


is it really that bad doc?


you can get a 450 sword from the quest in the "arena of annihilation" scenario. It's quick, easy and it's a nice weapon to start with.

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