Monks feel so weak ..why ?

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I have been questing and doing dungeons and such . Monks are so weak compared to other classes . Why even bother making a new dps class when your just going to make them so weak ? I guess the tank side is ok and the healing is really good . Im mostly talking dps why do you think they made the dps so weak on a new class ? So a lot of people would not finsihing leveling them ? ....Maybe they will buff the later ?
Eh?

Every monk I've run with has been balls to the wall insane.
WW is a little low on the DPS side at endgame, the sims and collection of logs clearly show them being out damaged by a lot of the other DPS specs, however, I don't think it is the lowest, IIRC there are a few specs performing lower than WW.
5.1, last I read, had no fixes, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some small buffs to damage before it was released.
But I'm a mistweaver, I don't care!
10/18/2012 10:15 AMPosted by Erras
My only complaint is that Monks tend to be noticeable harder to heal than any other class when tanking. This is every monk that I have run with. I'm not sure if I've gotten nothing but undergeared monks or if there really is a weakness there.


Yeah im not sure either because well im not max level but at lower levels monks are the easiest class to heal because they do some self healing in combat it must change at max level ?
10/18/2012 10:15 AMPosted by Erras
My only complaint is that Monks tend to be noticeable harder to heal than any other class when tanking. This is every monk that I have run with. I'm not sure if I've gotten nothing but undergeared monks or if there really is a weakness there.


haven't tanked on it, but from what I've read, it seems like it's easy to screw up and take a lot of damage if you aren't using the mitigation CDs properly to increase and clear stagger damage at the right times.
10/18/2012 10:15 AMPosted by Erras
My only complaint is that Monks tend to be noticeable harder to heal than any other class when tanking. This is every monk that I have run with. I'm not sure if I've gotten nothing but undergeared monks or if there really is a weakness there.


Yea thats my only problem so far, they tank like gummy bears.
10/18/2012 10:15 AMPosted by Erras
My only complaint is that Monks tend to be noticeable harder to heal than any other class when tanking. This is every monk that I have run with. I'm not sure if I've gotten nothing but undergeared monks or if there really is a weakness there.


I'd say it's about the only tanking class that requires actual practice.

Keeping the defensive buffs up for a monk tank comes from using their dps abilities, like Blackout Kick. And it's probably impossible to keep the buffs up 100% of the time, especially if you run into resource starvation issues.

And on top of that, every Monk spec has a different "brew" mechanic....and they all function fundamentally differently, with the Brewmaster's giving evasion.
Try pushing the buttons faster... or at all!!
10/18/2012 10:21 AMPosted by Erras
On the other hand, the monk healer we have in guild is rocking out the heals, especially considering he is the least geared healer.


Yeah, Monk is currently the strongest healer. We got hit with a big nerf not long ago, and we're still on top. The downside is that it seems to be harder to manage mana as a mistweaver than other healers.
I can count on one hand the number of Heroics now that I haven't been the top DPS. Leveling was a cakewalk as well with some Heirlooms. I'm averaging 38-40k in Heroics, single target. We are far from weak.
WW is a little low on the DPS side at endgame, the sims and collection of logs clearly show them being out damaged by a lot of the other DPS specs, however, I don't think it is the lowest, IIRC there are a few specs performing lower than WW.
5.1, last I read, had no fixes, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some small buffs to damage before it was released.
But I'm a mistweaver, I don't care!


Dimes to donuts they're not clearing their stagger damage, keeping guard up, and taking advantage of healing spheres.

I don't take a lot of damage when I tank and do it right(not derp on avoidable damage, etc).
10/18/2012 10:25 AMPosted by Woogum
I can count on one hand the number of Heroics now that I haven't been the top DPS. Leveling was a cakewalk as well with some Heirlooms. I'm averaging 38-40k in Heroics, single target. We are far from weak.

That's heroics though.

Raids can be quite different.
And I hate how little I can do about kiting things as a Windwalker.
Well, you are Hybrid classes. If you could do the same DPS as a pure DPS class we would have issues.
What level is your Monk OP? Are you wearing any heirlooms? Are you talking about feeling weak in dungeons or questing?

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I think blizz is taking a more moderate approach to this new class after the circus that was DK's at release.

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