Blizzard are you even aware of LFR Garalon?

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Uhm, we facerolled Garalon first try. Kill the legs, don't stand in stuff, it's LFR people.
People don't seem to remember LFR Will of the Emperor when it first came out. That was pretty crazy the first couple of nights, simply because people had no clue what to do.
11/07/2012 08:38 AMPosted by Trappz
That right there is proof it isn't easy.


It's a BOSS. that drops epics. He's not supposed to be easy.

Jesus, do you guys just want to log in and have epics mailed to you?


LFR is suppose to be easy. Go do normal and heroics if you want hard stuff
LFR is suppose to be easy. Go do normal and heroics if you want hard stuff


It's easier than Normals or Heroics, but not as easy as the loot pinata that was the Dragon Soul LFR. They actually now require some semblance of raid awareness, or else the group WILL wipe.
It is going to be changed.

Stop implying that people who can't get past this are bad or lazy or whatever because the fact is if you have downed this boss you were lucky enough to get a competent group and that right there is the essence of the problem.
11/07/2012 08:02 AMPosted by Kookshelper
Many posts have been made by players claiming to have killed this boss in an LFR .. are they lying?


Yep. We're all lying. Don't look at my breastplate. That's a lie, too.
It is going to be changed.

Stop implying that people who can't get past this are bad or lazy or whatever because the fact is if you have downed this boss you were lucky enough to get a competent group and that right there is the essence of the problem.


So incompetent people should be rewarded is what you're saying.
What are you guys complaining about?

Instead of coming here complaining LFR is too hard why not attempt to learn what you need to do?

That is the problem with the LFR player base in general.

They expect to kill everything in 1 or 2 attempts, if it is more than that they bail on the group and call everyone retarded and crappy.

Funny thing, you don't see normal and heroic mode guilds doing this. You'll see those guilds wipe 10's to 100's of times to learn a boss.

Problem with LFR players is they expect to be spoonfeed. If for once they actually maybe put some effort in, learned the boss encounter instead of just expecting a free kill things would go smoother, but we all know that won't happen because that would require something called effort.

Plus, LFR Garalon is not hard. Did all of LFR HoF last night and 1 shotted every boss, done in 30 minutes.

So there is nothing wrong with the encounter, but there is soemthing wrong with people who are to lazy to try to learn it.
It is going to be changed.

Stop implying that people who can't get past this are bad or lazy or whatever because the fact is if you have downed this boss you were lucky enough to get a competent group and that right there is the essence of the problem.


So incompetent people should be rewarded is what you're saying.


LFR is designed with a certain level of difficulty. You can debate all you want about what that level should be and/or continue to insult players whose skill level you have no information on. Or, you can look at the situation of ONLY 2/6 queues popping and being in multiple failing groups and realize this is not what LFR was designed for.
What are you guys complaining about?

Instead of coming here complaining LFR is too hard why not attempt to learn what you need to do?

That is the problem with the LFR player base in general.

They expect to kill everything in 1 or 2 attempts, if it is more than that they bail on the group and call everyone retarded and crappy.

Funny thing, you don't see normal and heroic mode guilds doing this. You'll see those guilds wipe 10's to 100's of times to learn a boss.

Problem with LFR players is they expect to be spoonfeed. If for once they actually maybe put some effort in, learned the boss encounter instead of just expecting a free kill things would go smoother, but we all know that won't happen because that would require something called effort.

Plus, LFR Garalon is not hard. Did all of LFR HoF last night and 1 shotted every boss, done in 30 minutes.

So there is nothing wrong with the encounter, but there is soemthing wrong with people who are to lazy to try to learn it.


LFR is not progression raiding, most LFR players will tolerate 2 to 3 wipes than drop and the remainder are left waiting for 10-15 minutes for another attempt. This cycle continues and we are left with only 2/6 queues.
11/07/2012 08:55 AMPosted by Spiritualus
LFR is designed with a certain level of difficulty. You can debate all you want about what that level should be and/or continue to insult players whose skill level you have no information on. Or, you can look at the situation of ONLY 2/6 queues popping and being in multiple failing groups and realize this is not what LFR was designed for.


Or, you could just look at the situation as a case of the collective not knowing wtf they are doing, and needed time to learn and adapt.

The boss is fine. Just because everyone and their grandmother were not one-shotting it less than a day after it was opened does not mean anything is wrong. It just means, wait for it, you and others might need to actually put in some effort for your welfare gear.


Shouting it's easy and calling other players "bad" or "welfare" doesn't negate the fact that this is causing a major problem for LFR queues.

If they wanted to increase the difficulty of LFR than do so incrementally across multiple encounters over a period of time.
Just wait til the griefers appear. And you thought Morchok trash pulling was bad. :P
11/07/2012 08:52 AMPosted by Hydrox
you can look at the situation of ONLY 2/6 queues popping and being in multiple failing groups and realize this is not what LFR was designed for.


Except I know many people that had no problem killing him, and I'm trying to politely say it's not the boss, it's you and your groups.


If they wanted to increase the difficulty of LFR than do so incrementally across multiple encounters over a period of time.


That's what's happening. You just can't get past step one.
11/07/2012 07:45 AMPosted by Deafwing
We're all stuck here


Nope.

Learn the fight, communicate the strategy, execute it in standard LFR subpar fashion, collect your 28g.


That's what's happening. You just can't get past step one.


My position is this step was far too large for majority of players. Having to get lucky enough to find a group of people who can overcome this fight is not what LFR has or the vision developers have shared.

How exactly is it "my" group. I like you are put in a random group.

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