Disc + Holy Healing guides 5.0.5-5.1

Priest
Discipline

Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMbYplJxCUs

Part Two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7iG2EBYlfs

Part Three
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfnHfgxCsj8

How To Read Disc Log's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgggWCi2-fQ

Holy

Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFb5X3r286s
Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fycCumBNTY&feature=youtu.be
I appreciate that you did make a guide but I like my Disc Style better. I'm trying to understand how blizzard wants the class to be played and here is my thought on it.

First is stat priority. Spirit->Crit->Mastery->Haste. Here is why.
-Crit is so important because it increases your heals with divine aegis.
-Heal is useless and not meant to be used by the Disc Class. This is b/c of the long cast time.
-To compensate for not using "HEAL" at all, spec into From Darkness comes light.

You might be thinking. HEY! I need mana! I need mindbender! But for disc that is wrong. Evangelism stacks upto 5 times And at 5 stacks it reduces the mana cost of smite and holy fire. This is important b/c smite PROCS From Darkness comes light. FDCL procs a free flash of light. This FOL can stack 2 times. Blizzard is trying to incorporate Atonement for smart cast healing to build up 2 stacks of FOL for huge instant heals. This is what replaces your Reg heal. The only mana regen you have as disc priest is rapture and spirit.

Also, Atonement is being buffed in 5.1 from a 15yard radius to a 40 yard radius. It used to be a melee heal but they are changing it to a raid smart heal.
Thanks for the feedback, Crobar!

Firstly, I could agree with you somewhat on the stat priority about Divine Aegis for a ten man setting. But for a twenty-five man I prefer my mastery considering with my mastery, my DA and Spirit Shell will be doing more. I do appreciate your insight on Divine Aegis.

Secondly, heal can be used in some situations that need be, I.E - 5 stacks of evangelism, nobody is taking damage tanks minimal damage, smite HF isn't needed until people take more damage, or until the timer runs low. So in that case I would use heal.

Now as regards to FDCL, especially in a twenty five man at least when I am smite spamming, normally there is little to no damage so the extra Flash Heal proc's would be wasted in my opinion. It may be more useful down the road, but right now I feel like the more mana I can get the better. I hate ending a fight (besides one with nothing happening, or like heroic stone guards) above 20% mana. It's wasted healing to me. While I watch over-healing, I do believe in using everything I can and have every one minute this extra mana CD. There are a couple fights that FDLC come on top of mindbender imo like heroic stone guard, sometimes will if I'm stuck on tanks, but I find myself running OOM in the last ~5% of the fight. As well as with Mindbender, I am getting an extra 48180 mpm.

As for Patch 5.1, I believe that will change the game considering that they probably will release it within a month. By that time people will be hovering 495 - 505 IL on average, mana not an issue. So throughput will come on top regarding it.

Again, thanks for your feedback and feel free to add more if you want!

Thanks -

Lilleth.
FDCL can proc up to 2 FOLs. They don't have to be consumed immediately. In fact if everyone is topped off throw out your preemptive heals like POM and PWS and let the mana regen normally. Also if i have 2 FOLs up and I know dmg is incoming I'll pop Spirit Shell first and FOLx2 on the tank or debuffed player. Spell control with a disc priest is so important. I would like to note that evangelism comes in to play for mana regen. It doesn't restore mana but the 30% less mana cost is blizzards way of compensating for the mana regen it used to have. I believe this is so b/c Blizzard removed mana from the intellect stat and made it a flat 300k. I also believe that blizzard is slowly moving towards a cooldown system and away from a resource system.

Blizzard's logic = Decreased Cost --> more spells able to be cast.
That's why evangelism changed, flat 300k mana pool.

Also, when I do run oom at the end of a fight and it's the burning phase, smite and holy fire are so cheap to use that I can spam those at 0 mana expending all the mana as I get it. The Smart heal is amazing, I have never overhealed a fight.
I can concur with you somewhat, however I do seriously doubt you have NEVER over-healed anything ;)

I also think Blizz may need a new CM in the healing department. REPRESENT THE BROS.

- Lol

Lilleth
Got part 2 and 3 up now!

Check em' out!

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7iG2EBYlfs&feature=plcp
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfnHfgxCsj8&feature=plcp
Effectively reading your WOL parses as a disc priest @

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgggWCi2-fQ&feature=youtu.be
good stuff. fixed all the problems i was running into as disc. thanks lilleth!
No problem, Negligence! Make sure to come back for various things! Holy is next. Probably put it out this weekend.
Negligence,
I cant remember the last time ive seen a high ranked Draenei priest. Usually i see them as pallys, hunters or mages. even some warriors. but hardly ever seen a priest. Im kinda like that myself, i see a race/class mix that i dont really ever see and decide to rank it. Like a tauren priest. i tried it out, not as bad as i thought it was going to be. Pretty good at survival due to the increase in stamina.
11/23/2012 10:50 PMPosted by Lillèth
No problem, Negligence! Make sure to come back for various things! Holy is next. Probably put it out this weekend.


PLEASE put out a guide on Holy, preferably for Dungeons and Battlegrounds. I changed my secondary spec to Discipline and have been doing a little bit better in Healing in Dungeons and even PvP. Holy, i actually could not keep up with my mana in dungeon healing. thanks for the Disc priest guide, cant wait to try it out. but i should probably gain more rank though. lol. thanks again.

-Holydeathh
I can't watch video on my mobile. For disc, what talents should I pick? I'm just starting into MoP and I feel like it's way different than Cata. I'm almost lost. What is my main healing spell and back-up spells?
11/25/2012 12:28 PMPosted by Holydeathh
No problem, Negligence! Make sure to come back for various things! Holy is next. Probably put it out this weekend.


PLEASE put out a guide on Holy, preferably for Dungeons and Battlegrounds. I changed my secondary spec to Discipline and have been doing a little bit better in Healing in Dungeons and even PvP. Holy, i actually could not keep up with my mana in dungeon healing. thanks for the Disc priest guide, cant wait to try it out. but i should probably gain more rank though. lol. thanks again.

-Holydeathh


I'll put one out in the next couple days. I've been recruiting like a MOFO lately.

:)

11/25/2012 07:55 PMPosted by Hippocratic
I can't watch video on my mobile. For disc, what talents should I pick? I'm just starting into MoP and I feel like it's way different than Cata. I'm almost lost. What is my main healing spell and back-up spells?


Get to a PC ;) Very thorough explanation on the ones you need for different circumstances, and why.

OH YEAH. Btw bump for having a freakin amazing week destroying every other healing class with 5.1.

61k on imperial?

56k on blade lord?

102k kill with 115k wipes on garalon <3 FUN TIMES.
Disc priest guide:

- Realize the devs have given you the shaft and reroll as a healer which isn't broken.


The OP is talking about PVE, not PVP. If you are complaining about Disc PVE you should stop playing the game. Shoo.

Lileth, thanks for a great guide.
Disc priest guide:

- Realize the devs have given you the shaft and reroll as a healer which isn't broken.


The OP is talking about PVE, not PVP. If you are complaining about Disc PVE you should stop playing the game. Shoo.

Lileth, thanks for a great guide.


No problem! Holy might come out today If I get around to it. Loads to do between my classes, work, recruiting, and raiding these days.
So I finally got time to throw together part one of my holy guide!

However, it rendered @ 480 instead of 1080. Not sure.

I may just re-upload it @ 1080, but here you go, the much requested -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFb5X3r286s&feature=youtu.be
Warrior soon™ to come. :)
^ up. Ill be putting out part 2 to the guide (gameplay) tonight after raid.

also got my new pc parts installed :D Ill be able to stream again while frapsing. Check out my stream around 7 ish PST twitch.tv/jarastar2 for some gameplay stuffs.

Anywayzza check it outtt
Back up!!

Finally, thank god - sorry its been like a month!

WELL PART 2 GAMEPLAY OF HOLY!!! <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fycCumBNTY&feature=youtu.be

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