Fix Shaman Totems or remove blanket silences

Arenas
Blanket silences are a TERRIBLE design.

You remove them from warriors? But keep them on mages? and DKs?
And priest?

What?

STUPID.

Resto shamans went from good healers, too worst healers.

Stun > 6 sec strang > 5 sec priest silence > Dead
I just wish they couldn't tremor while feared
How are you supposed to kill resto shaman without CC/silences? One cast and they are back to full HP...

I will agree that silences are annoying, but they are necessary..
Verandra, you're missing the point.

They are necessary but not on TOTEMS.

Totems = shaman cds like a bubble or iceblock.

Put Pally bubble on CD when silenced and watch all the holy paladins drop from r1 to 1500 rating.
Blanket silences are a TERRIBLE design.

You remove them from warriors? But keep them on mages? and DKs?
And priest?

What?

STUPID.

Resto shamans went from good healers, too worst healers.

Stun > 6 sec strang > 5 sec priest silence > Dead
The thing is they're not very likely to remove blanket silences, they consider it to be skillful.

Heres the problem I have with this issue, I do not believe shamans should be capable of using their healing totems while silenced. I am perfectly fine with them using their utility totems though.

But lets face it, healing stream/tide shouldn't be usable while silenced, the rest should.
Are resto shaman actually dying now? If so, then the change worked. Shaman were far too difficult to kill before this change.

The only negative is that the nerf screwed over elemental and enhance.. but they should be used to that by now.
yeah lets try to kill a healer without silences.
12/05/2012 02:14 PMPosted by Raw
yeah lets try to kill a healer without silences.


It's call an interrupt.

Please learn the difference of a blanket silence and an interrupt before you come in sounding stupid.
yeah lets try to kill a healer without silences.


It's call an interrupt.

Please learn the difference of a blanket silence and an interrupt before you come in sounding stupid.


not this kid again..

guys he is really mad because a mage killed him..

if you read the post he says leave the silence on mages, and since we only have 1 silence, how would we even get close to kill a healer if they remove it?
Blanket silences are a TERRIBLE design.

You remove them from warriors? But keep them on mages? and DKs?
And priest?

What?

STUPID.

Resto shamans went from good healers, too worst healers.

Stun > 6 sec strang > 5 sec priest silence > Dead


hm... you're talking about unholy DK that has no burst at all here? Ghoul stun 3 sec, 2min CD strangulate that you can trinket, priest silence half duration cause of DR. So you're going to pretend that 3 seconds stun and a half duration priest silence killed you from full health when unholy DK has around 10% crit chances and doesn't have a single hard hitting ability aside from soul reaper if it does end up ticking? There are missing parts in this story. Even though I agree blanket silences are annoying and am lvling my 4th 90 ATM (resto shaman) so I wouldn't mind this change to be reverted although we know it won't happen.
12/05/2012 01:46 PMPosted by Yossarion
I just wish they couldn't tremor while feared


in the past we couldnt, but our tremor had no CD so we literally had to keep putting it down as people who feared would kill it before they feared.
Blanket silences are a TERRIBLE design.

You remove them from warriors? But keep them on mages? and DKs?
And priest?

What?

STUPID.

Resto shamans went from good healers, too worst healers.

Stun > 6 sec strang > 5 sec priest silence > Dead


The priest and DK one are fine. They're decently long CDs. The mage one is not fine. The mage one needs to be a major glyph, not be baseline, and it needs to increase the CD on counterspell by 4 seconds (i.e. offset the 2-piece bonus).
Because Blanket Silences are necessary.

We have an arms race, every class has atleast one interupt and multiple instant CC

if we had to hard cast everything, the amount of charges, interupts to juke and instant cc you would hardly ever get anything off.

So they made instant spells, and procs, and they became prodominant

Then there needs to be a way to stop it, hence silences.

I with silences were gone.

I really do.

Also, dont pretend gag order was the same situation.

Warrior interupts

Pummel 15

Charge 12

Shock wave 20

Disrupting shout 40

Intimidating shout 1 min

I dont think they needed the blanket silence from Heroic throw, think they will be just fine

Also... Spell reflect, possibly one 25 sec CD 1 1 min CD

Warriors had a lil too much control.
Alright, noticed some of you guys aren't reading correctly.

To the mage complaining you wouldn't have a silence.

I'm saying you need to change your BLANKET silence into an INTERRUPT.

And to the dk talking about unholy dks.

Where did I state the DK was unholy?

He was frost.
Alright, noticed some of you guys aren't reading correctly.

To the mage complaining you wouldn't have a silence.

I'm saying you need to change your BLANKET silence into an INTERRUPT.

And to the dk talking about unholy dks.

Where did I state the DK was unholy?

He was frost.


Interupts arent as good as they used to be, there is a valid complaint at this state in the game that every thing is instant.

The only one removed, didnt need it, they have enough ways to lock someone down.
Lmao people actually think Shamans are rock-bottom since the change. Sorry your butt hurts after getting kicked off the god pedestal.

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