Question about gems (PvP Ret)

Paladin
I've read all of the guides and info online and what not, but I am getting mixed opinions.

I know Haste is extremely important for Rets atm, so is it better to socket pure yellow Haste gems and ignore socket bonuses, or is it better to do the hybrid gems, like 160 Haste/Strength, 160 PvP Power/Resil and follow the sockets?

Also, which socket bonuses are worth getting?

Mr. Robot shows gemming pure Haste and Resilience, but a lot of guides show a lot of hybrid gems over pure yellow Haste.
Str & Resil for red

Resil & Power for Blue

Resil for Yellow and Prismatic
Mm, instead of Haste, I preferred doing pure Resil gems and then hybrid resil gems for non-yellow or non-prismatic sockets. Our damage is great during burst windows, but with the prevalence of CC and damage going around, it helps soaking up that extra damage you're taking.
So, neither of you think gemming haste is a good idea?
02/11/2013 10:53 AMPosted by Hydroplaning
So, neither of you think gemming haste is a good idea?


Gemming haste is not recommended as you can reforge it from less desirable stats.

A safe route would be to do resil/power. I ran with 67% resil before I decided to ignore certain socket bonuses in hopes of doing more damage.

You're still gearing up, so at the moment you're caught in a bad situation because most people will outgear you. I would opt for trying to survive more at this point by gemming resil, however it's entirely up to you.
02/11/2013 11:03 AMPosted by Harthvader
So, neither of you think gemming haste is a good idea?


Gemming haste is not recommended as you can reforge it from less desirable stats.

A safe route would be to do resil/power. I ran with 67% resil before I decided to ignore certain socket bonuses in hopes of doing more damage.

You're still gearing up, so at the moment you're caught in a bad situation because most people will outgear you. I would opt for trying to survive more at this point by gemming resil, however it's entirely up to you.


Yeah, and I am way over the PvP hit cap, because I still have PvE pieces.

Thanks for the input. I have been making resil a priority, but I am sure i'll switch it up once I get full Malev gear.
02/11/2013 11:51 AMPosted by Hydroplaning


Gemming haste is not recommended as you can reforge it from less desirable stats.

A safe route would be to do resil/power. I ran with 67% resil before I decided to ignore certain socket bonuses in hopes of doing more damage.

You're still gearing up, so at the moment you're caught in a bad situation because most people will outgear you. I would opt for trying to survive more at this point by gemming resil, however it's entirely up to you.


Yeah, and I am way over the PvP hit cap, because I still have PvE pieces.

Thanks for the input. I have been making resil a priority, but I am sure i'll switch it up once I get full Malev gear.


You're welcome. Make sure you make haste your priority AFTER 3% hit/3% expertise as Sanctity of Battle lowers the GCD on top of the actual cooldowns.

One more thing to keep in mind as 5.1 draws to a close is to make sure you're capped on honor as you will be buying malev instead of dreadful with your honor points.


Yeah, and I am way over the PvP hit cap, because I still have PvE pieces.

Thanks for the input. I have been making resil a priority, but I am sure i'll switch it up once I get full Malev gear.


You're welcome. Make sure you make haste your priority AFTER 3% hit/3% expertise as Sanctity of Battle lowers the GCD on top of the actual cooldowns.

One more thing to keep in mind as 5.1 draws to a close is to make sure you're capped on honor as you will be buying malev instead of dreadful with your honor points.


When do you think 5.2 will be out?

I'm probably just wasting honor on Dreadful atm, huh?


You're welcome. Make sure you make haste your priority AFTER 3% hit/3% expertise as Sanctity of Battle lowers the GCD on top of the actual cooldowns.

One more thing to keep in mind as 5.1 draws to a close is to make sure you're capped on honor as you will be buying malev instead of dreadful with your honor points.


When do you think 5.2 will be out?

I'm probably just wasting honor on Dreadful atm, huh?


Well, an educated guess would be two weeks+. My reasoning is the following: They are running a sale on all wow expansions which ends February 25th @ 11:59 PST. Secondly, this is the quote from Bashiok which is on the front page of the site: "With 5.2 fast approaching I’ve been wanting to get my thoughts together on how I should be playing in the last couple weeks before the patch."

Replacing all your contender gear by 5.2 would work to your advantage as you won't have to buy it for gold (dreadful will be crafted in 5.2). Malev will be honor bought and if I am not mistaken, you will be able to buy your T1 weapon for 3500 honor as well.

TL:DR - Replace as much gear as you can, end the season with 4k honor in the bank.


When do you think 5.2 will be out?

I'm probably just wasting honor on Dreadful atm, huh?


Well, an educated guess would be two weeks+. My reasoning is the following: They are running a sale on all wow expansions which ends February 25th @ 11:59 PST. Secondly, this is the quote from Bashiok which is on the front page of the site: "With 5.2 fast approaching I’ve been wanting to get my thoughts together on how I should be playing in the last couple weeks before the patch."

Replacing all your contender gear by 5.2 would work to your advantage as you won't have to buy it for gold (dreadful will be crafted in 5.2). Malev will be honor bought and if I am not mistaken, you will be able to buy your T1 weapon for 3500 honor as well.

TL:DR - Replace as much gear as you can, end the season with 4k honor in the bank.


Yeah, I saw that quote, too.

I'll probably just cap honor and forget about Dreadful for now. I do decent as is and am able to cap Conquest each week pretty easily with my FDK friend.

I really appreciate all the feedback you've given me. I am pretty stoked for 5.2, seeing as how I don't have as much time to dedicate to WoW as I used to. Having full Malev will be a treat.

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