The Most Powerful Faction

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From this list, I'd like you to choose what you believe is the most powerful faction in Warcraft lore(I am not listing the Alliance or the Horde, simply outside factions.)

The Burning Legion - The Legion is a massive army of demons, originally led by the Dark Titan, Sargeras. It consists of countless numbers of demons, from countless numbers of races across the universe.

The Old Gods - The Old Gods were originally found on Azeroth by the Titans. They were not able to kill the Old Gods without damaging Azeroth itself, and were forced to imprison them within the earth.

The Scourge - Though now dismantled, the Scourge was an army of massive amounts of undead, led by the Lich King. They killed countless people, and raised them into undeath.

The Zandalari - The Zandalari were originally a massive empire of Trolls, who ruled most of the world at one point. They dismantled, but have recently attempted to reform their empire once more.
The Titans.
Gnomeregan
The Alliance. Lawful good always win in the end. :p

More seriously
1)The Burning Legion
2)The Old Gods
3)The Scourge

Much much lower)The Zandalari
The Alliance. Lawful good always win in the end. :p

More seriously
1)The Burning Legion
2)The Old Gods
3)The Scourge

Much much lower)The Zandalari


I'd say the Legion and Old Gods are on same level.
The Alliance. Lawful good always win in the end. :p

More seriously
1)The Burning Legion
2)The Old Gods
3)The Scourge

Much much lower)The Zandalari


I'd say the Legion and Old Gods are on same level.

I would give it to the Legion. The Old Gods were stronger in the War of the Ancients trilogy only because the Legion was invading via a portal. If they ever find Azeroth, the planet will quickly be destroyed, with the Old Gods.


I'd say the Legion and Old Gods are on same level.

I would give it to the Legion. The Old Gods were stronger in the War of the Ancients trilogy only because the Legion was invading via a portal. If they ever find Azeroth, the planet will quickly be destroyed, with the Old Gods.


The legion only seems powerful because they have millions of demons to just throw at people. They of course have their more powerful demons, but from what we have seen even their power wouldn't come close to any Titan or Old God.

The Old Gods don't seem like beings who could easily tire and would be capable of mass destruction.

So I would imagine their only real trouble would stem from Sargeras and even then 3 or so Old Gods fighting him they could probably destroy him.

Then again we don't know much about the Legion or Old Gods power.


I would give it to the Legion. The Old Gods were stronger in the War of the Ancients trilogy only because the Legion was invading via a portal. If they ever find Azeroth, the planet will quickly be destroyed, with the Old Gods.


The legion only seems powerful because they have millions of demons to just throw at people. They of course have their more powerful demons, but from what we have seen even their power wouldn't come close to any Titan or Old God.

The Old Gods don't seem like beings who could easily tire and would be capable of mass destruction.

So I would imagine their only real trouble would stem from Sargeras and even then 3 or so Old Gods fighting him they could probably destroy him.

Then again we don't know much about the Legion or Old Gods power.


If the Old Gods could completely ignore armies, then they'd have no need for armies, themselves.

Except they do.

When the Pantheon came to Azeroth, the bulk of the fighting was done by the Old God armies - the ones they previously used for their own power struggles. The ones led by their Elemental Lords. Once that war was lost, the Old Gods had their citadels smashed and were chained.

The Old Gods we've seen since have very much followed the same mode of operation.

The Old Gods do not follow the Hero style of leadership. The Old God is not the one leading the charge. The Old God stays in the back, where it's safe, and sends forth minions to do its fighting for it.

They do not personally wad on ahead and annihilate armies. They only end up facing an enemy personally if their plan has broken down - and they don't tend to fair too well.

... Really, despite their "team up on Sargeras" plan from back in the War of the Ancients books, I'm not even sure it'd be physically possible. The Old Gods are not very mobile beings. That book was written long, long before some of the more modern developments related to the Old Gods happened.

If the Old Gods lost in the field against the Legion (Old God armies vs. Legion armies), Sargeras might not even need to personally visit each Old God's prison/hiding place, one by one, and impale it with his super-weapon. He might just send in legions of demons armed with Elementium (a metal that hurts Old Gods) to chop them up.
If the Old Gods lost in the field against the Legion (Old God armies vs. Legion armies), Sargeras might not even need to personally visit each Old God's prison/hiding place, one by one, and impale it with his super-weapon. He might just send in legions of demons armed with Elementium (a metal that hurts Old Gods) to chop them up.


I would imagine we were talking about Old Gods released and at full power.
If the Old Gods could completely ignore armies, then they'd have no need for armies, themselves.

Except they do.

When the Pantheon came to Azeroth, the bulk of the fighting was done by the Old God armies - the ones they previously used for their own power struggles. The ones led by their Elemental Lords. Once that war was lost, the Old Gods had their citadels smashed and were chained.

The Old Gods we've seen since have very much followed the same mode of operation.

The Old Gods do not follow the Hero style of leadership. The Old God is not the one leading the charge. The Old God stays in the back, where it's safe, and sends forth minions to do its fighting for it.

They do not personally wad on ahead and annihilate armies. They only end up facing an enemy personally if their plan has broken down - and they don't tend to fair too well.


We had C'thun who fought a Titan himself or even more than 1 and ended up killing 1 while he himself was thought to be dead.

They may have armies, but they are still immensely powerful beings that were able to fight the Titans.
Murlocs.
Titans are the only beings in all of Warcraft who could successfully take on armies of lesser beings, and still prevail.

Well, them, and Arthas, but he cheated by using Necromancy. He still needed an army at his back for most of his campaign.

And even with Titans, it might not be a sure thing.

The original background story made it sound like Sargeras was personally smacking demons around, and the Pantheon battled the Old God armies on their own. Now that we've seen more of how Titans work, it's likely that they made heavy use of their constructs and technology. Sargeras might've been the only true Titan doing his job, but he likely had legions of Titan constructs to help out with that job (and at least one such creation, the Doomguard, are now part of the Legion).

The Old Gods have never worked that way. It's not just because they're trapped now. Their fight against the Pantheon went the same way, too. There's always a buffer of minions between them and whatever they're working against. And once the tiny, insignificant mortals get through the buffer, they've an annoying habit of stabbing the Old God in the Vulnerables with pointy, ouchy things. With a great deal of success.
The Old Gods have never worked that way. It's not just because they're trapped now. Their fight against the Pantheon went the same way, too. There's always a buffer of minions between them and whatever they're working against. And once the tiny, insignificant mortals get through the buffer, they've an annoying habit of stabbing the Old God in the Vulnerables with pointy, ouchy things. With a great deal of success.


Man you must be awesome to know how that fight went.
Hogger
Next to the Titans, there is NOTHING in existence that even comes close to the burning legion.

The Old Gods? A random assortment of necrophotic parasites restricted to a single world? While they may have a great deal of potential power, should they both escape and recoup their original capacities, right now they're... there's a reason why we've never had one as the final boss of an expansion.

As to "the rest of them" not found on Azeroth? We already know that the Old Gods weren't even a unified force until after the Titans had all but obliterated them - each and every single Old God is an entity in and of itself - there's no universal "Old God" club where they all congregate and plan and work together. This isn't a swarm or hive or even an army. Each individual Old God is just that, ONE Old God, and we already know that the Old Gods' of Azeroth's greatest enemies until the Titans fustigated them were eachother.

But... the biggest threat to Azeroth, the one most likely to destroy us all?

The Burning Legion has millions of lightyears of space and planar complications to contend with. The Old Gods are held in check by prisons crafted by the most powerful beings in existence. The Scourge? ... Bolvar has a bad day, or even a bad dream and absolutely everyone ever dies.

We installed a new Lich King because without one, Azeroth is destroyed by the Scourge, no questions asked. All that was saving Azeroth from ending in Zombie Apocalypse fashion was Arthas' determination to be a complete tool and screw around rather than just upending the planet and getting on with it.

The Old Gods? They get outplayed and out maneuvered by the Titans EONS in advance. The Burning Legion, while we're the only planet to hold them at bay, multiple times no less, still has a lot more hoops to jump through. The Scourge? ... The only defense against them we have is Bolvar, and even if he doesn't go the way of Tal'Rasha, who's to say some jerkwad doesn't traipse up to the Frozen Throne with a hairdryer, defrost Bolvar's head, and pluck the Crown of Domination off his head regardless?
Legion=Old Gods>Scourge>Zandalari
Traveling bakers union
The Legion.

They're the only one of those factions that has been boldly recruiting new members for generations WHILE killing off worlds and enslaving/destroying inhabitants.

Olds Gods work in the background, and their collective plans were defeated. The Zandalari are a joke. The Scourge was just a proxy army used by the real bad guys.
no Gnolls?
Old Gods. I think even Sargeras said he would be in a bad situation if he got caught by one of them.

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