Why does coin count as a combo for rogues ?

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Right now a rogue can literally put down a 3 mana card at turn one. All he needs is to use coin to get 2 mana, then put down defias ringleader and it counts as a combo letting him get the defias bandit out as well. Both of these at turn 1. How is this not OP ?
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While that is a strong opening, there are stronger ones out there from mages, druids and arguably warlocks. Despite being able to do this or any combo off the coin, rogue isn't exactly a strong class atm.
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Coin into defias is a good opener, without a doubt, but as has been pointed out rogues aren't exactly at the top, and even with the coin as it is, going first is still an advantage for rogues.
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If you think it is bad be happy you weren't here before the Ringleader change months ago. It is totally manageable as it is.
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Pretty much any low cost minion with 3 health is a good counter to Ringleader
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that opening is strong indeed however the nerf to defias giving it 2 typically ends up in a equal trade from whatever class. best case scenario i get 4 damage.
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out of curiosity what was the defias like before?
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As long as Coin + Mirror Image + Mana Wyrm works then Defias should work.
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12/25/2013 11:49 AMPosted by Akayno
While that is a strong opening, there are stronger ones out there from mages, druids and arguably warlocks. Despite being able to do this or any combo off the coin, rogue isn't exactly a strong class atm.


Don't know what game you're playing, but Cantrip Rogue is currently one of the strongest decks in constructed, and took first in the most recent NA Managrind tourney, and 2nd in the EU. The only thing is that it takes a bit of mechanical know-how to properly pilot the deck.

Either way, to the op, Coin + Combo isn't all too bad. Coin + Defias is far from unstoppable, as most of the time the 2/1 gets dealt with immediately. With the meta as it is right now, if you kept a hand that doesn't allow you to deal with a 1 or 2 hp minion on T2, that's on you.
Edited by ImmortalTHOR on 12/29/2013 8:35 AM PST
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12/28/2013 11:01 PMPosted by valeera
out of curiosity what was the defias like before?


The ringleader was a 2-3 and he often would eat a 2 attack guy or the 2-1 would eat a 3 attack one. It was awfully hard to battle back. As a 2-2 the ringleader can be taken down much easier.
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