09/03/2013 03:27 AMExcept that I find arena really fun, and I get a pack out of doing it, so to me, what I get out of what I pay, is worth it.
Posted by Alveia
Not what I said.
I think a movie is an enjoyable experience and worth the ~$15 I spend to go there. I don't regret it. I had more fun than green paper bills labeled $10 and $5 were going to give me. It was "worth it."
But the movie didn't pay for itself, and neither does arena.
I went 2-5 last night and got 1 card pack + 80 gold. All 4 of my boxes were gold 50g, 15,g 10g, 5g. I really dont understand why you people have your panties in a wad over maybe losing $.50. Heres some math, $.50x30days=$15 dollars which is exactly what you pay for a sub of WoW. If you play arena more then once a day, then thats you problem not blizzards.
Even assuming your math were true, $15 for a WoW sub buys you FAR MORE content in 1 month than one arena per day.
You can't have it both ways. You can't equate 1 arena per day to WoW's cost.
I don't really see the point of this post. What it seems to be saying with all the math is basically that total arena entry cost across all games is greater than the arena reward across all games... ie there is no way arena can pay for itself across the whole population.
Well, what a shocker! Blizzard has designed a system that is not self-sustaining and requires people to pay into it to play. Isnt that the whole point? They would have failed epicly if the arena did not get people paying money.
For gifted/lucky players, arena CAN pay for itself. It just comes at the losses of other people. I really didnt need to see the math to figure that one out.
It might seem obvious to you that your !@# and hand are two different things, as well. From what I've seen some people claim on the forums, however, they seem confused between the two.
Similarly, some people on these forums have claimed that "everybody" can get to a position where enough practice will allow them to perpetually arena while breaking even or better forever.
List of what I'm not saying:
-Arena pays for itself.
-Arena should pay for itself.
-Arena can't pay for itself for anybody.
-Arena shouldn't pay for itself for anybody.
-Anything related to how the game "should" or "shouldn't" be.
-Arena is not worth the cost.
-Arena does not reward players with fun.
-Anything pertaining to a player's personal enjoyment of an arena.
-Anything regarding whether or not Arena's prices should change at all.
List of what I am saying:
-If there is an Arena MMR system, then only 1 player is statistically likely to break even or better with an arena once their MMR settles (=the best player in the world, and only if they are such by a wide margin).
-If there is not an Arena MMR system, then only 9% of the population will break even or better in the arena, and no amount of practice anyone can do will increase that from 9%. If 30% of the population practiced their hearts out, only ~30% of those who practiced (9 out of 30) would break even as the result of their practicing.
I'm sure this might come as a shock to some of you gentlemen, but my post is purely informational. Unlike much of the dribble that have worked its way into in the forums, this is not me giving my opinion on an issue; this is me simply showing the math of the situation so people can stop spreading misinformation.