StarCraft® II

Choosing between Tosh and Nova.

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In terms of the story (even though the storyline adjusts to your decisions so that your choice is always correct), I prefer Tosh because he is an ally while Nova is a threat, and because Tosh is a pretty cool guy (eh kills Dominion and doesn't afraid of anything). I also thought the idea of the "Spectres are the next generation Ghost" was pretty cool.
In terms of the actual units though, I think Ghosts actually out-weigh Spectres a little bit (even though both are situational and I didn't really use them that much afterwards). I will give one tip though: if you are planning on doing the last level of the campaign defending against Air units (props to you if you can do it on Brutal BTW, Nydus version is easier IMO), I would suggest getting Ghosts and upgrading their range as well as Bunker range so they can snipe Brood Lords.
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In terms of the story (even though the storyline adjusts to your decisions so that your choice is always correct), I prefer Tosh because he is an ally while Nova is a threat, and because Tosh is a pretty cool guy (eh kills Dominion and doesn't afraid of anything). I also thought the idea of the "Spectres are the next generation Ghost" was pretty cool.
In terms of the actual units though, I think Ghosts actually out-weigh Spectres a little bit (even though both are situational and I didn't really use them that much afterwards). I will give one tip though: if you are planning on doing the last level of the campaign defending against Air units (props to you if you can do it on Brutal BTW, Nydus version is easier IMO), I would suggest getting Ghosts and upgrading their range as well as Bunker range so they can snipe Brood Lords.

dealing with air is easiest, a few viks at each side to kill brolords, mindcontrol every Muta/corrupter/brolord that comes within range and you win

once you got the rythym down its a cakewalk, theres no unpredicatability like with the worms
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They both have nukes. And also:
Nova: works for the Dominion
Tosh: a member of Raynor´s Raiders

Who´s the bad guy?

did you see the cutscene after u help nova?!
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They both have nukes. And also:
Nova: works for the Dominion
Tosh: a member of Raynor´s Raiders

Who´s the bad guy?

did you see the cutscene after u help nova?!

you mean after he gets pissed at the guys who jsut helped mengsk and backstabbed one of there closest allies on the word of there worst enemy?
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I chose Nova . . . no particular reason. It was just kind've a toss-up for me.

. . . or rather, I should say, a tosh-up . . . uehuehuehueheuhee . . .

But yeah, I never used the Ghosts anyways. I'm gonna play it again soon and try to make smarter, more formulaic decisions with my credits -- saving my money for bigger, badder, late-game units. I use very few specialists. I think I might change that up though.
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SPOILER

There is no change in the overarching storyline, except for if you choose Tosh, you get to talk to him throughout the rest of the campaign (in the bar), and if you choose Nova then you won't.

Of course, Blizzard came out and practically announced the Tosh side is canon, including the save Ariel and knock down the platform choices. If that changes anything.

Strangely, these were all the choices I made on my first play-through.
Edited by KarMAzasz on 4/8/2011 11:17 PM PDT
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choosing tosh is actually the default way to go, choosing nova is something extra.

personally, choosing nova seems a little bit of a let down when considering her past with tosh

(spoilers)

in the manga "Ghost academy", nova, tosh, and 3 other initiatives are all studying/training together as "team blue" to become ghost operatives. they act like normal people, not conscious of any kind of conspiracy or even oppression within the dominion.

in this manga, tosh is depicted as basically the leader of team blue, with a cool and calm way of thinking, and an ABSOLUTE mengsk supporter. while nova is the unique, gifted, lone wolf student of excellence.

later into the manga, nova builds a great respect towards tosh, they even begin to have a relationship.

which is what makes me disappointed with what happens to tosh if you choose nova, she just KILLS HIM, stabs him in the back of the head, no sign of respect to a fallen comrade/lover, no remorse, it just all seems like a big joke in the game.

which is why i dislike choosing nova, and ALWAYS go with tosh, cause theres just no disappointment.
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So anyone knows what happens in Heart of the Swarm before Sarah escapes?
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never mind, found this on another thread: "That's really odd. In WoL I sided with Tosh, but when I met her in Swarm she thanked me for helping her with her problem but "a girl's gotta do..." and Raynor met the same fate anyway. Maybe they accidentally got it backwards?"
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Well, the tosh ending really is the good ending. It's all inspiring and whatnot.

The nova ending, on the other hand...
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Yeah.. I helped nova and they acted like I helped tosh...

And then they said they were going to send "our associate Tosh".......

Yeah, I don't think so

XD
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i dont think it matters because all that happens is that you either side with nova or tosh and you either get spectrums or gohsts so what ever you choose dosnt matter
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Look at it this way: Who are you going to trust, a Dominion Assassin openly working for Mengsk who claims Tosh will backstab you any minute, or the guy who came to you offering a job, offering troops (Reapers) and support and intel to help you get the job done along the way? He joined your crew, provided insight into current events. While his psychic powers and overall demeanor made some uncomfortable, he never intruded further than he was welcome, and allowed Raynor to take any steps when he knew he wasn't trusted, and backed off when asked.

Side with Nova, and you shut him down, betraying him and everything you've accomplished together, taking the money he gave you and running, backstabbing *him*, for supposedly being a loose psychotic cannon - something you have only her word to go on. Tosh is brutally murdered while swearing vengeance for this cruel betrayal.

Side with Tosh, and you bust open New Folsom, releasing his Spectre companions as well as everyone who ever opposed Mengsk, earning the undying gratitude of Tosh and his allies, who throw their full support behind the Raiders, and Tosh joins your cause. Hanson, if present, reveals Nova to have been lying.

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On the Hanson side of things, the simple fact is that in this particular case, it looks as though the situation changes based on your choice to make it the right one. If you side with Hanson, she wasn't infested. The few infested colonists are rounded up and contained, while the rest of the healthy colonists simply do what they can to escape the Protoss onslaught.

If you side with Selendis, Hanson turns out to be infested herself, and the colony turns out to be a writhing mass of twisting flesh in a matter of minutes.

The Haven choice is *not* the same type of choice as the Tosh/Nova debate - in that one, there is a defined situation. The only real difference is whether or not Nova's lie is exposed - and whether Tosh survives to join your cause. In the Haven scenario, *both* choices turn out to be completely justified, because the story *changes* specifically for the *purpose* of justifying your cause.
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On the Hanson side of things, the simple fact is that in this particular case, it looks as though the situation changes based on your choice to make it the right one. If you side with Hanson, she wasn't infested.

If you side with Selendis, Hanson turns out to be infested herself, and the colony turns out to be a writhing mass of twisting flesh in a matter of minutes.


Now, it has been awhile since I've done the mission and sided with Hanson, but if I recall correctly, she was infested regardless. I could very well be wrong, but I think I remember being shocked the first time when I did side with her, and then discovering it didn't matter and the Protoss were actually right.

In any case, I agree with your Tosh/Nova decision 100%

It's not that I ever thought Tosh was a real "bro" until you helped him, and his motivations seemed outside the scope of helping the cause and humanity, but as you pointed out, he DID offer up jobs, resources, troops, and insights, and after you help him, he offers you friendship as well.

I never picked the Nova option, but I don't feel bad about it. Tosh never seemed like a bad character to me, and though I'll admit I did have to consider it (she made a rather compelling argument, and the fact is we WERE releasing criminals,) I still feel the decision was a good one. When he told me someone was conspiring with Mengsk, I thought, "It could be him throwing me a curve ball, but it could be anyone..." and I started evaluating EVERYONE on the ship because of that.
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I've always chosen girls but this time I sided with Tosh. After all he showed his reliability and he warned me about Typhus too. Nova? I guess everyone has seen what she was trying to do in the beginning of the Heart of the Swarm.
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I picked Nova (Side with the Chick) But it has little to no impact on the game. However if you pick nova there is an Easter egg in the armory (Ever now and then on one of the weapons Nova will appear if you helped her) other than that, there is no effect in WoL..

I find ghosts better due to snipe helping in the later missions.

===SPOILER===
In HotS, You meet nova again and her reaction to use is different depending on who you helped.
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03/18/2011 11:06 PMPosted by Altrantis
Oh! And Tychus didn't trust him. That' enough for me. For someone with little education he's right way too often, and he clearly preffers Nova.

Seeing as Tosh doesn't like Tychus either, and Tosh actually has some sort of Psionic sixth sense about stuff, that's not a very good argument.
But
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seeing that Tychus ends up working for Mengsk, of course he prefers Nova.
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Edited by TomTheBomb on 2/22/2014 7:17 AM PST
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Posted by UnNamedHero
Tosh offers interesting insights into events and people as they come along, but it's vague enough as to not give anything away. I suspect he knew that Hansen was working on the protoss/zerg hybridization project, and that's why she thought she could cure infestation. Those two blue biodomes in the Heavans Fall map still strike me as important for the story.

At no time has there ever been any official statement that Hanson had anything to do with the Hybrid project.

Whatever....

Her familiarity with zerg science and that her colony was being chased from world to world was just- hmm... coincidence, of course.

She knew a lot about zerg stuff because she's a scientist. She knew almost NOTHING about protoss.
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