Topic Crippling Custom Mod/Dependency Bug = BAD
Malpheus #292
Malpheus
It's become frustrating ignoring this very specific drop bug. I would estimate it drops players 20-25% of the time I play a map it affects, sometimes none, sometimes half.

- We know it has something to do with custom dependencies.
- We know it randomly (or is it?) drops different players.
- We know it happens directly after loading.

I've heard it happens in multiple maps, but I've confirmed it in three maps personally, with the above being true in all maps:

Trifaction - This game very hard to show to new players because it keeps dropping people on their first tries.

12 Kingdoms - Not public

WW2 Diplo


Is every map with custom dependencies experiencing this issue? I would really love some feedback here.

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE ANSWER?!

Bounty #820
Bounty
For the love of god please respond to this thread Blizzard and tell us what is causing this!!!!!!!!!
Bounty #820
Bounty
Alright, myself and another person just did a test and what we discovered is that this is infact 100% Blizzards fault.

1. I uploaded a blank map
2. I uploaded a blank mod and set it as a dependancy for the blank map
3. We loaded the map and waited for 4 minutes in lobby
4. GOT INSTANT DROPPED



What more proof do you need Blizzard?
Sixen #935
Sixen
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12/14/2011 09:53 PMPosted by Bounty
What more proof do you need Blizzard?

So it happens in any map with a custom dependency, is what you're saying?
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Bounty #820
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12/14/2011 11:45 PMPosted by Sixen
What more proof do you need Blizzard?

So it happens in any map with a custom dependency, is what you're saying?
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yep
Malpheus #292
Malpheus
12/14/2011 11:45 PMPosted by Sixen
What more proof do you need Blizzard?

So it happens in any map with a custom dependency, is what you're saying?
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Yup per my understanding as well. The custom dependencies are somehow related.
Littlepwny #563
Littlepwny
Maybe its network side? Like the custom dependency is causing an error that forces the server to close session in order to prevent malfunction?

If you can try it again with players who all have good internet connections (make them do speed test), and have good computers.

If it still drops them then maybe look at your firewalls? Because its dropping players it's gotta be an issue with either the server the game is hosted on or the connection
Malpheus #292
Malpheus
It's not a firewall or connectivity (local) issue for myself or those that I have spoken to, could it have something to do with regions?

It is most certainly not the users computers at this point.
Thorgan #721
Thorgan
Edited by Thorgan on 12/15/11 9:54 AM (PST)
It's been around for quite a long time, too. Patch 1.3.0 I think.

Maybe we should make bets as to when it will gets fixed.
Bounty #820
Bounty
It's been around for quite a long time, too. Patch 1.3.0 I think.

Maybe we should make bets as to when it will gets fixed.


I'm not going to stop bumping this thread until it gets addressed/fixed because this is a HUGE issue and its honestly embaressing for Blizzard imo.
FockeWulf #178
FockeWulf
WW2 Diplo isn't using a custom dependency yet.

I have yet to notice many drop issues with it (besides the lobby delay bug).


However it also could be your banks. Banks have been known to occasionally drop players (especially new players). IDK if trifaction is using banks or not but WW2 Diplo had less issues when the banks were removed.
Bounty #820
Bounty
Read the Tests i did please

"Alright, myself and another person just did a test and what we discovered is that this is infact 100% Blizzards fault.

1. I uploaded a blank map
2. I uploaded a blank mod and set it as a dependancy for the blank map
3. We loaded the map and waited for 4 minutes in lobby
4. GOT INSTANT DROPPED



What more proof do you need Blizzard?"
Bounty #820
Bounty
Bump for Blue Response please.
GOOSE #390
GOOSE
Edited by GOOSE on 12/15/11 2:21 PM (PST)
i had this happen to a non custom mod dependency map also it had no banks
Malpheus #292
Malpheus
WW2 Diplo isn't using a custom dependency yet.

I have yet to notice many drop issues with it (besides the lobby delay bug).


However it also could be your banks. Banks have been known to occasionally drop players (especially new players). IDK if trifaction is using banks or not but WW2 Diplo had less issues when the banks were removed.


Those custom tank models you built aren't in a mod?

We have a big release coming by christmas and it is affected by this bug as well. (no bank files btw).

It's silly how we've been guessing about this for so long now. I was in a lobby yesterday, everyone left because someone mentioned that staying in the lobby too long causes drops!?!!? That's the kind of stuff that's happening. I was in another lobby the day before yesterday that the host refused to start until everyone relogged in to "prevent drops".

Palamani #360
Palamani
I've had this issue with my newer maps, but for completely different reasons. I uploaded my newest map just two days ago, and every time I host it, if I'm in the lobby for more than about two minutes before the game starts, I drop when the game starts. If I leave the lobby, get reinvited, and then the game immediately starts, I usually don't drop.
No, I'm not using any custom dependencies, but it gets annoying to have to do that every time I want to test/play my new map for about three? weeks after I publish a it (my first three didn't have this issue; it started with my fourth map). Really, this issue should be fixed. It's problematic for me, and most of my maps aren't even designed for the majority of players. It scares me, trying to think of how badly custom maps would probably die if every map on the first few pages had this problem.
Littlepwny #563
Littlepwny
If its happening on maps without dependencies, then obviously this is not the issue. It is sounding more and more like its something server side causing people to drop. Is it 4 minutes for every map or does the time differ?
BigDaddy #972
BigDaddy
Please fix, blizz.
Turtle #501
Turtle
Desert Strike doesn't use any custom dependencies, but it happens to me once in a while. Usually when we end up waiting in the game lobby for over a minute.
Turtle #501
Turtle
Alright, myself and another person just did a test and what we discovered is that this is infact 100% Blizzards fault.

1. I uploaded a blank map
2. I uploaded a blank mod and set it as a dependancy for the blank map
3. We loaded the map and waited for 4 minutes in lobby
4. GOT INSTANT DROPPED



What more proof do you need Blizzard?


btw, have you tried doing this without any dependencies in the blank map?

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