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I realize this topic already has a thread open, but I wanted to respond directly to a comment made by Nethaera, here:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/540954537?page=4 At current (and based on the last information I have) we aren't seeing a problem. We can't say we see a problem when the data isn't backing it up . . . Better take another look at that data. I realize this comes from a fan site and not directly from Blizzard's servers, but it's the best that we as players have available: http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/us/4/all 4v4 Arranged Team avg win%, Gold: Random Race: 69% Protoss: 68% Terran: 68% Zerg: 69% http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/us/4R/all 4v4 Random Team avg win%, Gold: Random Race: 48% Protoss: 47% Terran: 46% Zerg: 48% That's a full twenty percentage point difference between Arranged Team wins and Random Team wins; and that difference is nearly across the board, as it is nearly as wide in the other categories (varying from ~15 to 20 point difference.) That disparity is also noticeable in 2s and 3s; it is only slightly narrower in the smaller formats. In summary, unless this is completely different data from a completely different source, Blizzard needs to take another look at their official stance that the data does not support any kind of disparity, because the numbers above are telling a fairly compelling story. |
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Aren't those stats what you would expect, though? The teams that have higher win% will get promoted out.
The only time this becomes a serious issue is in Diamond League, because there is no where for the AT's to go. They will just sit at rank 1-10 and keep annihilating high-end random team Diamond players. Even as rank 1 Diamond 4v4 I face high-end AT's that are nearly impossible to beat. I have come to accept it more or less, though it can still be a little frustrating. I've always been conflicted about the issue of RT/AT playing together and still am. |
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8/20/2010
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Edited by Bashiok on 8/20/10 11:37 AM (PDT)
As I had posted elsewhere we're aware of a few issues which are resulting in matches, especially for mid-to-lower league teams with fewer matches under their belts, not being as even as they should be. Our numbers aren't quite as extreme as that site lists, but there's definitely a couple things we're aware of that are likely leading to the disparity.
By contrast looking at diamond league players we know there's the possibility to ensure more fair and fun matching across the board, and it's just a matter of making those tweaks and changes. |
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8/20/2010
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As I had posted elsewhere we're aware of a few issues which are resulting in matches, especially for mid-to-lower league teams with fewer matches under their belts, not being as even as they should be. Our numbers aren't quite as extreme as that site lists, but there's definitely a couple thing we're aware of that are likely leading to the disparity. Bash, why aren't your posts listed under "Recent Blues" like Neth and Lyr? It makes finding your responses to big issues like this harder :( |
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8/20/2010
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As I had posted elsewhere we're aware of a few issues which are resulting in matches, especially for mid-to-lower league teams with fewer matches under their belts, not being as even as they should be. Our numbers aren't quite as extreme as that site lists, but there's definitely a couple thing we're aware of that are likely leading to the disparity. They are; that's how I saw this one. |
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8/20/2010
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Hopefully everyone at this point backs off Blizzard. I read all the posts from both threads and its is CLEAR that they are acknowledging the issue and are looking into it. When was the last game that you played and it's support team instantly fixed an issue that was more than just a tweak or unit balance issue? The problem is with the numbers and it can't be easy for them to fix matchmaking AT v. RT. Thank them for making 3v3 and 4v4 competitive at all.
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#13
8/20/2010
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I realize this topic already has a thread open, but I wanted to respond directly to a comment made by Nethaera, here: Yes, but again,.... isnt that what you would EXPECT to be the case? AT have less strats to memorize. RT have to be masters of all kind of strats and come up with new one's on the fly. RT is HARDER to play, and more LIKELY to lose. Thats how it's SUPPOSED to work. ??? |
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8/20/2010
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