Topic (Locked) Alt + G = Ping . Seriously ?
Doncroft #307
Doncroft
MVP
I've always used Alt+G.

And if you need to look and find the 'G' key, you have bigger fish to fry imo, like perhaps learning how to type without looking at the keyboard..

In Blizzard RTS, it has always been hold down alt + left click to ping. Always. No reason to change it.
Fikz #344
Fikz
It is not necessarily that finding the G key is hard but the fact that they changed something without the need to. I have been alt + clicking on the minimap to ping since the game was released. It has been so long since Ive been doing it that it is second nature and I dont have to think about it anymore. All of a sudden they changed it and now I will alt + click the map like 5 times with nothing happening and then I remember I have to alt+g. In the second that it takes me to correct myself, Dts have already done damage, couldnt get obs in time etc etc. I understand that it can be rebound and I have done that, but still why would they change something that isnt broken. If blizz was a person, I would punch it in the kidney and make it piss blood for being such an !@#$%^.
XxXxX #662
XxXxX
no more pinging spam on the mini-map?
YES, GJ Blizzard!
MrKhanh #718
MrKhanh
Cakefart
I've always used Alt+G.

And if you need to look and find the 'G' key, you have bigger fish to fry imo, like perhaps learning how to type without looking at the keyboard..


Its not about learning how to type without looking at keyboard. Its about the habit. I know some people use ALT+G and some use ALT+left click. Then why can't Blizzard let us have those 2 options ? U said u always used ALt+G, what if Blizzard changed it to ALT+P ? are your fingers that long to reach those hot keys ? what if people are handicapped ? U need to think all the possible ways to satisfy everyone, you cant just make people learn how to type without looking at keyboard.
MrKhanh #718
MrKhanh
no more pinging spam on the mini-map?
YES, GJ Blizzard!


I am sure Blizzard can think a better way to solve the pinging spam on the mini map. Like You can only ping 3 times everyone 3 seconds? so ppl will use ping more efficiently
Csaw #393
Csaw
Blizzard, please revert the pings back to the way they were! Alt+g+click is a waste of time and tinkering around with the hotkeys just causes problems now that we can't use Alt for two different things at once (Health Bar display and QuickPing).
nFusion #709
nFusion
GOOD MORNING,

Here is my good deed for the day:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6232223778#1

PLEASE READ POST #4 for FIX.

Wasted 40 min of my life, so you don't have to!!

You are welcome
KingCreamPie #436
KingCreamPie
08/01/2012 09:23 AMPosted by JDub
People actually do this? I find pinging can be helpful at times but mostly it is already overused and annoying


This helped pursue a team oriented game plan and attack path. Yes, people actually create a path through pings. Maybe your teammate doesn't have VoIP, and you need to warn him to go around a patch of seige tanks instead of through.

You draw it with a ping line.
Aldrexus
Aldrexus
Community Manager
Edited by Aldrexus on 8/3/12 12:11 PM (PDT)
In patch 1.4.4, Quick Ping was hardcoded to Ctrl+Alt for the normal gameplay area and Alt for the minimap. We added the Quick Ping hotkey to the Unit Management section of the Global Hotkeys menu in patch 1.5.0 to allow players to rebind it as they see fit. As some of you have pointed out, the default for this hotkey is currently Ctrl+Alt, but it can be rebound to any keystroke you choose -- including Alt. Please be aware, however, that rebinding this hotkey to Alt may also unbind your Display Healthbars hotkey, so make sure to rebind this key as well if you use it frequently.

By the way, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this change. Please let us know what you think and provide us with specific examples of how this change impacts your gameplay.
Zamara #931
Zamara
In patch 1.4.4, Quick Ping was hardcoded to Ctrl+Alt for the normal gameplay area and Alt for the minimap. We added the Quick Ping hotkey to the Unit Management section of the Global Hotkeys menu in patch 1.5.0 to allow players to rebind it as they see fit. As some of you have pointed out, the default for this hotkey is currently Ctrl+Alt, but it can be rebound to any keystroke you choose -- including Alt. Please be aware, however, that rebinding this hotkey to Alt may also unbind your Display Healthbars hotkey, so make sure to rebind this key as well if you use it frequently.

By the way, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this change. Please let us know what you think and provide us with specific examples of how this change impacts your gameplay.
Question:

Why was the decision made to place the quick ping under "Unit management" rather than "UI"?

The minimap ping feature is a UI enhancement, not specifically a unit management tool. So why was that decision made, and whose feedback was used in the beta?

It is inconvenient for most users trying to rebind this key, as it makes more sense for it to be under UI.

Please clarify.
EmperorKuo #528
EmperorKuo
alt-z is the easiest
Linkebungu #591
Linkebungu
I actually never knew you could just use Alt, I've always used Alt + G, so I see everyone getting upset over this change and I'm completely unaffected. :D
crushbrain #210
crushbrain
In patch 1.4.4, Quick Ping was hardcoded to Ctrl+Alt for the normal

By the way, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this change. Please let us know what you thnk and provide us with specific examples of how this change impacts your gameplay.


It's terrible. Please change it back.
Fawxkitteh #132
Fawxkitteh
Edited by Fawxkitteh on 8/3/12 2:46 PM (PDT)
By the way, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this change. Please let us know what you think and provide us with specific examples of how this change impacts your gameplay.

I don't recall this change being mentioned, so it was rather frustrating when I first tried to ping. I eventually figured out I had to use ctrl+alt, then shortly after found I could rebind it to just alt again. Is there a place we could find out about the smaller changes like this, or did I just miss it in the patch notes?

I saw the patch notes, but I didn't see this mentioned.
Larse #523
Larse
This is just wrong. It was a tradition since starcraft 1 and to warcraft and to sc2. I don't know why did you suddenly changed it. How do you expect 2v2 masters who already used to the old hotkey to adapt
Doncroft #307
Doncroft
MVP
Edited by Doncroft on 8/3/12 4:02 PM (PDT)
In patch 1.4.4, Quick Ping was hardcoded to Ctrl+Alt for the normal gameplay area and Alt for the minimap. We added the Quick Ping hotkey to the Unit Management section of the Global Hotkeys menu in patch 1.5.0 to allow players to rebind it as they see fit. As some of you have pointed out, the default for this hotkey is currently Ctrl+Alt, but it can be rebound to any keystroke you choose -- including Alt. Please be aware, however, that rebinding this hotkey to Alt may also unbind your Display Healthbars hotkey, so make sure to rebind this key as well if you use it frequently.

By the way, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this change. Please let us know what you think and provide us with specific examples of how this change impacts your gameplay.

I just want to be able to hold down the alt key and ping the minimap like before. Changing it to alt in custom hotkeys still doesn't allow us to hold it down and ping like before. Like always.

Specific example. I ping my attack paths all the time so my 2v2 ally can coordinate with my army movements. Having to tap alt every time I ping instead of holding it down makes it very cumbersome. Also, if I miss a left click, my cursor stays locked in ping mode (the cursor never changed before) and I have to right click to unlock my curson and select my units again. It's slow and clumsy compared to the old way. The way it's been in...well, every Blizzard RTS that I can think of. Even pinging multiple locations: "Set up proxies here, here, and here. Put your Overlords here, and there" is slower now.

It's harming team play. Please, change the ping method back.

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Edit: I just now found out there IS a way to restore it exactly as it was.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6246865600

However, I still think it should default to the traditional method, to avoid all this difficulty and confusion.
lIllIIIlIlII #489
lIllIIIlIlII
It for sure makes player confused when it's suddenly changed to something different. My first thought was, whaaat, it's not working anymore? oO Oh well.. btw. I like Doncroft, first higher ranked forum member that actually says sometimes that it is NOT perfect.^^ Instead of questionable excuses sometimes.. :S
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