StarCraft® II

I guess no one remembers the truth

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11/12/2012 05:33 PMPosted by blitz
Dude, remember how people used to call poor Dayvie David "Terran" Kim?


Yep, and then they called him a protoss, and then a zerg, and then a protoss again, and now a zerg again.

I remember when terran was OP, there was a picture of DB wearing a terran polo-shirt (black polo shirt with a terran emblem on it) and using it as "proof" that DB was a terran and biased towards terrans. The community can get pretty ridiculous when it starts hopping on the QQ train.
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Zerg is quite obviously overpowered.
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11/12/2012 05:37 PMPosted by Ironmammoth
Zerg is quite obviously overpowered.


At 52.8% overall tournament winrates over the past 2 months, it's not as OP as you'd think from the QQ on these forums.
http://www.sc2ratings.com/stats.php?racedays=60
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11/12/2012 05:12 PMPosted by BossBobRoss
I don't remember Zerg or Protoss players crying this much about Ghosts or Stim or Bunkers while Terran had 60+% winrates.


I do.

Marines OP, Hellions OP, banshees OP, marauders OP, Ghosts OP.

My favorite was when marineking beat kyrix with marine splitting and a bunch of players started complaining about how marines were "too microable"


Too microable? Isn't that called "a good unit?"
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At 52.8% overall tournament winrates over the past 2 months, it's not as OP as you'd think from the QQ on these forums.
http://www.sc2ratings.com/stats.php?racedays=60


Kinda funny, but when you change the number of days from 60 to 365 you see an almost perfect balance between all 3 races.
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At 52.8% overall tournament winrates over the past 2 months, it's not as OP as you'd think from the QQ on these forums.
http://www.sc2ratings.com/stats.php?racedays=60


Kinda funny, but when you change the number of days from 60 to 365 you see an almost perfect balance between all 3 races.


Wow ya your right.

Funny thing, them statistics
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11/12/2012 05:38 PMPosted by Snow
Zerg is quite obviously overpowered.


At 52.8% overall tournament winrates over the past 2 months, it's not as OP as you'd think from the QQ on these forums.
http://www.sc2ratings.com/stats.php?racedays=60


genius
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Eat it, terrans.
Edited by Damy on 11/12/2012 11:28 PM PST
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11/11/2012 03:46 PMPosted by Hunta
Blizzard said they arn't nerfing it. Deal with it

Truth be told blizz said they most likely will be nerfing.

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5848167253?page=1

Lemme guess, OP's race is Zerg.

Wait what


This guy plays terran as much as monocrome and pause play zerg.
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At 52.8% overall tournament winrates over the past 2 months, it's not as OP as you'd think from the QQ on these forums.
http://www.sc2ratings.com/stats.php?racedays=60

Kinda funny, but when you change the number of days from 60 to 365 you see an almost perfect balance between all 3 races.

Wow ya your right.

Funny thing, them statistics


Change it to the last 30 days and things look a lot worse.
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11/11/2012 03:50 PMPosted by HeReTiC
You sound like Obama blaming Bush.


Obama has a point as Bush f@cked up about everything there is to f@ck up!

Nerf the GGlord or Winfestor and watch the QQ dissapear about Zerg being op!
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terran dominate for over a year, get ur fact straight OP, terran didnt win single gsl in 2010!
terran only dominated in 2011. i agree stim bunker rush was OP, THATS WHY IT IS NERFED !infestor is OP thats why it NEED TO BE NERFED LIKE STIM AND BUNKER . no one remember the truth? it is more like everyone knows the the truth that zerg is as OP as terran in 2011. ghost is answer to infestor in late game? wow your so smart that even code s terran didnt thought of that! maybe i should tell nestea to make hydralisk to counter siegetank

11/11/2012 02:59 PMPosted by IllIllIllIll
In the end, the game is balanced. Winrates are close to 50%, and tournaments share a variety of races. The Infestor is a stupid and powerful unit, but it is Blizzards band-aid fix to the rest of the underpowered Zerg race.
cant tell if troll or not, but nice bite for 5 pages OP
Edited by BronzeAddict on 11/13/2012 1:21 AM PST
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I guess no one understands the concept that if a race is overpowered it gets nerfed regardless of what race was "op first".
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11/13/2012 01:52 AMPosted by DukeInstinct
I guess no one understands the concept that if a race is overpowered it gets nerfed regardless of what race was "op first".
+1 OP is a troll or he is just stupid, i remember lots of whiny kids use to whine terran in 2011 i guess he is one of those kids
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u mad OP? from DB
I want to be as clear as I can on our current position of the Infestor in Wings of Liberty.

- We are not going to make any changes before BWC.
- We are going to continue to watch games and gather data.
- We will discuss changes.
- We may try a balance map sometime after BWC.
- We may try some changes in Swarm Beta, using that as a test-bed for stuff we could bring back into Wings of Liberty.

At this time I could see these as possible outcomes:
- We nerf Infested Terrans, Fungal Growth or both.
- We make a change to the Infestor (hit points, movement speed, etc.).
- We do a change to how the unit is designed (add a projectile back to Fungal Growth, increase the visibility of burrowed units while they are moving, etc.).
- We buff some of the potential counters (EMP, Feedback).
- We do a combination of any of the above.
- We see something that makes us decide that doing nothing is the right answer. Obviously if this occurs we would share this data or reasoning.

For those of you who believe that this is too slow a response, I am sorry.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5848167253?page=1#new-post
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There is so much wrong with Zerg. Infestor is the root of a lot of it.
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11/13/2012 02:12 AMPosted by RoSe
There is so much wrong with Zerg. Infestor is the root of a lot of it.


You are mistaken. Infestors are the band aid holding the issues at bay.
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Balance does not mean that every race should have their turn at being overpowered.
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11/13/2012 02:37 AMPosted by Vindicare
Balance does not mean that every race should have their turn at being overpowered.


But is the zerg overpowered?
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Balance does not mean that every race should have their turn at being overpowered.


But is the zerg overpowered?

same question is asked to code s and code a player and here is the answer http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381326
Edited by BronzeAddict on 11/13/2012 2:47 AM PST
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