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Best budget gaming PC build?

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Hi everyone so i am planning on building a new gaming PC (Monitor included if you can). Now the websites I'm looking at to buy my PC parts from is the below websites, my Budget price range is from 500-600$ (Possibly 700 dollars)

www.tigerdirect.com (Tigerdirect)
www.newegg.com (Newegg)

Ok so the parts ill be buying are

CPU (I don't mind AMD as it is a budget build)
Motherboard (Preferably Asus and MSI, any other recommended Motherboards are fine =D)
RAM (I'd love 8GB's)
Video card (Above the minimum requirements, i think ill spend about 100-150 on the gpu)
Optical Drive (No OEM's,)
Hard drive (500GB's - 1TB is fine for me =])
Case (If I'm still within my budget at this point a CPU water cooler would be nice, not expecting it though as things aren't that cheap)
I think ive mentioned all the things i need here, Windows 7 obviously will be covered , i think ill get the windows 7 home premium 64 bit so ye. But if i missed anything here important please tell me as i am a beginner PC builder.

Appreciate all replies, Fraser =)
Edited by Frasernator on 1/15/2013 3:16 AM PST
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Will you be overclocking, do you have a keyboard/mouse, and do you have a monitor?
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hi thanks for the reply, well i might be overlocking im not really sure, and no i do not have a monitor and i dont have a keyboard, that can be seperate from the actual build if not possible within the budget ;)
Edited by Frasernator on 1/15/2013 3:36 AM PST
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are u there :P?
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Unless you are doing extreme overclocking water cooling is stupid and pointless, I over clock my i5 by nearly 25% with the stock cooler alone and my temps never go above 55c.

I put this together from newegg, no case though as thats more of a personal preference, just pick what ever ATX you like and is cheep.

Seagate SV35 Series ST1000VX000 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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$89.99
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EVGA 01G-P4-2650-KR GeForce GTX 650 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130827
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$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card


$109.99
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PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk III Series 600W Modular Power Supply features 100% Japanese 105°C rated Capacitors
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$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card

$99.99
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G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7D-8GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231308
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$41.99
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ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813131837
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-$10.00 Instant

$139.99
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Intel Core i5-3350P Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.3GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 69W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80637i53350P
Item #: N82E16819116782
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$179.99
Subtotal: $661.9
Edited by Geo on 1/15/2013 3:47 AM PST
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Hi thank you for your reply! awesome parts will look into these definitely, im not very good at part picking and i heard intel is better than amd aswell, :D, 1 last question, will that video card run starcraft 2 on high+ settings?
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It will run it on extreme settings.

I run on extreme with 60+ FPS and I have a geforce 460. SC2 is far more CPU dependent than GPU. If you feel like skimping on anything don't let it be the CPU.
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Ahhh i see thanks =D
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Why is it cpu intensive? i thought most games all are graphic card intense? Just wondering =P
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Not sure exactly but I believe it has to do with calculating the pathing for 200+ units. I also suspect inefficient programming.
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I see, Also i noticed you did not choose an optical drive? Are they NEEDED for a PC or can i skip it?
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01/15/2013 03:53 AMPosted by Frasernator
Ahhh i see thanks =D


If you want my honest opinion with the build he made, you can easily cut out about $40 from your PSU and still get a really high quality PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016

It's $64.99 without shipping/tax and 550w is more than enough for anything you're doing. Then I would spend the money on a nicer motherboard or GPU maybe. Or get a nicer case that you like. Most of them will have decent airflow so you don't have to worry about that.

Not sure exactly but I believe it has to do with calculating the pathing for 200+ units. I also suspect inefficient programming.

It's all the calculations and poor programming that make it such a poorly optimized game. My computer should be demolshing SC2 and manages ~60 fps in late game (before both are maxed) and like only 45 at the height of the game (sometimes even lower). I have a Radeon 7870 and i5 2500k for reference :P

Edit: Also, even though your build is "under budget" you don't have a copy of Windows 7 added to the price and you don't have a case. You might need to just make your build less expensive and add those two things :P
Edited by MtlGuitarist on 1/15/2013 4:03 AM PST
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Ahhh i see! Ok ill use that power supply then, Appreciate both of your helpings :), If i change a part and make it better should i change my GPU or my motherboard? Oh true yes Umm if i do make my build cheaper is it possible for you to recommend me something?
Edited by Frasernator on 1/15/2013 4:04 AM PST
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Oh crap, gave you the wrong ram. Get this instead

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231314
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy

$46

01/15/2013 04:00 AMPosted by MtlGuitarist
If you want my honest opinion with the build he made, you can easily cut out about $40 from your PSU and still get a really high quality PSU.
Probably, but I tend to shy away from cheaper PSUs. If a PSU goes bad it could take the whole system with it. PC P&C is one of, if not the best brands in quality PSU, all my systems have them,
Edited by Geo on 1/15/2013 4:12 AM PST
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01/15/2013 04:04 AMPosted by Frasernator
Ahhh i see! Ok ill use that power supply then, Appreciate both of your helpings :), If i change a part and make it better should i change my GPU or my motherboard? Oh true yes Umm if i do make my build cheaper is it possible for you to recommend me something?
Motherboard CPU and RAM need to be a set. If you change one you have to make sure the others are compatible. The video card are all pretty standardized interface and are freely exchangeable.

A somewhat better GPU would be the 650 Ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838
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01/15/2013 04:00 AMPosted by MtlGuitarist
Edit: Also, even though your build is "under budget" you don't have a copy of Windows 7 added to the price and you don't have a case. You might need to just make your build less expensive and add those two things :P
Do you have any recommendations on what build i should be aiming for then lets say i went for a 400-500$ build leaving me 200$ for monitor and windows 7 what do u think is a good build for high+ settings on a nice fps?
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Hey guys i found a a GPU on tigerdirect.com which was bit cheaper if i did lower my price range would this be a good bang for your buck gpu?
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01/15/2013 04:15 AMPosted by Frasernator
Hey guys i found a a GPU on tigerdirect.com which was bit cheaper if i did lower my price range would this be a good bang for your buck gpu?
Dont reply to that post, dont worry bout it
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Moving this over to the Games, Gaming, and Hardware forum for some additional input. :)
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If you're really just looking for a budget gaming PC just go over to the outlet section at dell.com. Most of their PCs don't come with a video card, but you can get one that can run pretty much everything for $40-$60 that runs on stock PSU (ie Geforce GT 630 over at newegg.com). Also, it comes with an OS already loaded.

You probably won't be able to run SC2 on the highest settings, but I really can't tell the difference between medium and high. Most players run on low anyway because all the extra effects are distracting (creep movement & DT paranoia, super shiny probes, shadows can be distracting too). So if you run on low anyway, this is perfect for you.

For your convenience, here is a link to the Dell Outlet. I'd probably go with either i3 or i5 and they start from about $400. So that plus a video card will probably total you about $450-$500. I believe they also ship free.

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?brandId=2202&c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh
Edited by Synergy on 1/15/2013 11:15 AM PST
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