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Two obstacles block a happy ending.

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Two obstacles prevent Sarah from ending up (alive) with Jim:

1) Her vast power and now pure zerg nature are now critical elements of her identity, especially since they are no longer in direct conflict with her original good (albeit damaged) character. When it comes to meaningful development of her character, she cannot simply be stripped of her power and nature and then settle down with Jim. She would genuinely have to drive herself in that direction for it to be fitting; hence, their arc cannot conclude with her getting "accidentally" or "incidentally" de-zerged. In my mind this is the hardest of the two obstacles to overcome in a well written conclusion.

2) She either has to pay for what she has done to the protoss (i.e. die), or they have to somehow forgive her. Without something drastic happening, they will not ever forgive her; she will not be allowed to live in peace (it doesn't matter how much the protoss like Jim). If she hides behind the Swarm (to avoid justice that she herself believes she deserves), then the Swarm will never be at "peace" with the protoss (it is possible that her conversation with Lessara foreshadows this).

It is primarily the second obstacle that makes me believe that she will die to atone for everything she has done, probably while fighting Amon. The first obstacle simply suggests that her development as a character can go no further, which further convinces me that the death solution to the second will take place.

Thoughts? Solutions? Personally, my desired ending for those two is them together, but if its not done well it will just be shallow.
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Two obstacles prevent Sarah from ending up (alive) with Jim:

1) Her vast power and now pure zerg nature are now critical elements of her identity, especially since they are no longer in direct conflict with her original good (albeit damaged) character. When it comes to meaningful development of her character, she cannot simply be stripped of her power and nature and then settle down with Jim. She would genuinely have to drive herself in that direction for it to be fitting; hence, their arc cannot conclude with her getting "accidentally" or "incidentally" de-zerged. In my mind this is the hardest of the two obstacles to overcome in a well written conclusion.


No reason she has to lose any of that to be with Jim.

04/04/2013 02:52 AMPosted by DarthTimmy
2) She either has to pay for what she has done to the protoss (i.e. die), or they have to somehow forgive her. Without something drastic happening, they will not ever forgive her; she will not be allowed to live in peace (it doesn't matter how much the protoss like Jim). If she hides behind the Swarm (to avoid justice that she herself believes she deserves), then the Swarm will never be at "peace" with the protoss (it is possible that her conversation with Lessara foreshadows this).


You use the words "justice" and "deserve" kind of lightly for my taste. If the protoss want to attack her, I suppose no one would stop them, but the zerg aren't a threat to them anymore, at least none of the zerg in Kerrigan's swarm, unless the protoss decide to make them a threat. I suppose they could die in droves in some blind quest for vengeance, but that's the kind of stupidity I'm hoping they will leave behind in Legacy of the Void.

It is primarily the second obstacle that makes me believe that she will die to atone for everything she has done, probably while fighting Amon. The first obstacle simply suggests that her development as a character can go no further, which further convinces me that the death solution to the second will take place.

Thoughts? Solutions? Personally, my desired ending for those two is them together, but if its not done well it will just be shallow.


i doubt it. After her little catharsis, I don't think she feels particularly guilty. She's finally found her niche and accepted her nature, and what's more, she's got someone she cares about that's done the same. So look on the bright side! :)
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Also, I didn't see a zipper on her zerg suit. That could make things awkward.
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Also, I didn't see a zipper on her zerg suit. That could make things awkward.


In a physical sense, sure, but all good unions aren't based on physicality. After all, eventually they'd both be too old to really enjoy each others' bodies anyway, and then they'd have nothing but their love for each other to keep the relationship going.
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What are you, gay? :P
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I don't see why Kerrigan can't remain as the primal Queen of Blades and still be with Jim. She doesn't have many choices. Whenever people talk about turning Kerrigan human again they're also talking about leaving the swarm in Zagara's hands and while she is learning from Kerrigan she's far from an ethical being. At the moment I believe her increased knowledge and thinking capacity would just make her that much more of a threat.

There is also Izsha. Now while it's outright stated that Kerrigan is training Zagara it seems to me that Izsha is learning from her as well. Kerrigan's treatment towards Izsha has also changed throughout heart of the swarm as well if you talk to her between missions. I can't remember the exact wording but Kerrigan does reassure her I believe before the final mission that she has no intentions of abandoning the swarm. It seems to me that a sort of big sister little sister relationship has developed between Izsha and Kerrigan or perhaps mother daughter.

She even managed to earn Abathur's respect by the end mission. Not sure if a personal relationship will ever develop with Stuckov he came in a little late in the game so I never saw Kerrigan really relax in her dialogue with him. Especially when she told him she wouldn't allow him to return home.

As Kerrigan has made it more dangerous she now has a responsibility to tend to the swarm and make sure it behaves. At the very least until she's managed to teach the swarm compassion and empathy. Yet that doesn't mean she has to give up on Jim. He could easily serve as a very important link back to her humanity and give a human perspective in her actions. I don't believe being surrounded by beings that are a bit on the genocidal side all day would be good for ones ethics.
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Also, I didn't see a zipper on her zerg suit. That could make things awkward.


There is always oral and hand jobs. Though those hands look a bit rough so there is always oral. Besides, just because you can't see a zipper doesn't mean there isn't a way for her to open herself up. Just hunt around for some pornographic artwork of starcraft I'm sure you'll find something.
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That was a far more constructive response than I was hoping for. I think I'll go be traumatised for a while... o.O
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What are you, gay? :P


In the words of Reigar of Enchanted Arms, (Amazing character in a silly game.) "I'm as straight as an arrow milady." Assuming you're actually a guy, I just left the whole quote intact for accuracy, because in context it's funny as hell. No, I'm just one of those guys that isn't (Solely, important qualifier there.) out for sex.
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i doubt it. After her little catharsis, I don't think she feels particularly guilty. She's finally found her niche and accepted her nature, and what's more, she's got someone she cares about that's done the same. So look on the bright side! :


Possibly, I'm more thinking Kerrigan accepted her nature to be part of the swarm for the time being.

Remember, during the Korhal invasion she did hint to Za'gara that the broodmother may take over the swarm someday.
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As Kerrigan has made it more dangerous she now has a responsibility to tend to the swarm and make sure it behaves. At the very least until she's managed to teach the swarm compassion and empathy. Yet that doesn't mean she has to give up on Jim. He could easily serve as a very important link back to her humanity and give a human perspective in her actions. I don't believe being surrounded by beings that are a bit on the genocidal side all day would be good for ones ethics.


This is my point. I refuse to believe Kerrigan has accepted that she'll be part of the swarm forever. She's accepted she has to be this to deal with Amon, but what about afterwards?
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I keep thinking that if Kerrigan just gave Aiur back to the Protoss, they wouldn't forgive her but they would leave her alone.
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I keep thinking that if Kerrigan just gave Aiur back to the Protoss, they wouldn't forgive her but they would leave her alone.


No they won't. You forget she already "helped" them out during the Brood War, and the Protoss received a backstab.

They'll be thinking that if Kerrigan gave Aiur back to them, it's only to make them lower their guard. They won't be convinced from that alone.
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What if she gave it back with flowers on top?
Yeah, I tend to forget details from Brood War (especially Queen of Blades), since it was my least favourite entry in the franchise.
Edited by Rasofe on 4/4/2013 4:42 AM PDT
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What if she gave it back with flowers on top?
Yeah, I tend to forget details from Brood War (especially Queen of Blades), since it was my least favourite entry in the franchise.


I mean sure if Amon uses his hybrid army to attack the Protoss, they're on the verge of being overrun and Kerrigan arrives with the swarm to drive them off, that MIGHT get the Protoss to reconsider a little...
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04/04/2013 04:36 AMPosted by ragnarok
As Kerrigan has made it more dangerous she now has a responsibility to tend to the swarm and make sure it behaves. At the very least until she's managed to teach the swarm compassion and empathy. Yet that doesn't mean she has to give up on Jim. He could easily serve as a very important link back to her humanity and give a human perspective in her actions. I don't believe being surrounded by beings that are a bit on the genocidal side all day would be good for ones ethics.


This is my point. I refuse to believe Kerrigan has accepted that she'll be part of the swarm forever. She's accepted she has to be this to deal with Amon, but what about afterwards?


You mention Amon but you're completely ignoring the part about the swarm posing a more serious threat now and needing time to learn. Even if Amon was dead that doesn't mean the swarm is ready to be let go. You also need to remember the bonds she's formed with Izsha and perhaps with Zagara or Stuckov.

I'm not sure if you found it but if you did just think of the seen in which Zagara comments. "It is your right to lie to me my Queen but I will try to figure it out none the less." Then the playful tone Kerrigan uses in response to Zagara's comment.

She has more ties to the swarm then just using them as a weapon. Well attachments to those who are intelligent enough to be more then a weapon. Heck she even treats tusky, I believe is the fan name, as something of a pet. Their are bonds of responsibility and personal bonds forming with the swarm. Besides if she does return to being human she flat out lied to Izsha.

That and it seems to me every time Kerrigan trust in someone else she gets screwed over. Even Valerian managed to mess thinks up despite his intentions. Given that each time she's tried to have a normal life it's been violently ripped away from I hope she'd learn her lesson. The only way she's going to get to have her cake and eat it to is to have enough power to hold onto it.
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04/04/2013 04:47 AMPosted by Inprea
You mention Amon but you're completely ignoring the part about the swarm posing a more serious threat now and needing time to learn. Even if Amon was dead that doesn't mean the swarm is ready to be let go. You also need to remember the bonds she's formed with Izsha and perhaps with Zagara or Stuckov.


Oh I know that part. Kerrigan knows there's a chance if she lets go, the swarm will go off killing everyone again once Zagara takes over.

But even then, I cannot see her being forced to be head of the swarm INDEFINITELY to ensure the Zerg don't threaten the terran race or anything like that.
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In the words of Reigar of Enchanted Arms, (Amazing character in a silly game.) "I'm as straight as an arrow milady." Assuming you're actually a guy, I just left the whole quote intact for accuracy, because in context it's funny as hell. No, I'm just one of those guys that isn't (Solely, important qualifier there.) out for sex.


It would be a safe assumption. And I still never quite finished that game. :( Xbox blew up.

Sh/t if you ain't out for sex what's the point in dating a girl? Might as well adopt a puppy. :P
Nah, I'm kidding. It's alllllgood bro.
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Seriously though, if the Protoss don't consider looking the other way in LotV, it'll only prove after all these years of encountering terrans and dealing with the Zerg, they've learned absolutely NOTHING.
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04/04/2013 04:49 AMPosted by ragnarok
You mention Amon but you're completely ignoring the part about the swarm posing a more serious threat now and needing time to learn. Even if Amon was dead that doesn't mean the swarm is ready to be let go. You also need to remember the bonds she's formed with Izsha and perhaps with Zagara or Stuckov.


Oh I know that part. Kerrigan knows there's a chance if she lets go, the swarm will go off killing everyone again once Zagara takes over.

But even then, I cannot see her being forced to be head of the swarm INDEFINITELY to ensure the Zerg don't threaten the terran race or anything like that.


You have a point about her need to control the swarm not being indefinite. Yet how long is it going to take for her to insure that the swarm is at least moderately safe? At least safe enough that if you were to crash land near their hive they wouldn't come out and murder you. I don't believe it'd be enough just to teach Zagara. That would be like making a nuclear reactor with only one pressure gauge. The swarm is way too dangerous to rely entirely on one person to keep it in check when you don't have to. Especially when that one person is capable of change as just as a person can change for the better they can change for the worse.

That doesn't resolve the issue with what she told Izsha though or the connections she's forming within the swarm. Plus there is still the issue that each time she's tried to live a normal life in the past it's been violently ripped from her. Tried to be a regular girl accidentally murdered one of her parents and was snatched up by the government. Tried to believe in Mengsk was betray and left for dead, tried to go along with Jim was hunted without mercy. She has nothing but miss fortune with trying to be human.

Now this final thing is pretty much just my thoughts. I can't help but dislike that people are wanting her to give up so much power and the opportunity to do so much just so she can look human. How much good could the zerg do as a constructive force with their adaptability? Would you ask a woman to give up a successful career just so she can be a house wife?
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