All In - without the tricks.

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So, I've beaten 28 of the 29 brutal missions but every thing I try to research for the final mission is either something I didn't research or I've chosen another path. So I was wondering if anyone happened to know a good strategy for beating All In USING THE FOLLOWING PARAMETERS:

- Nydus Worms eliminated - Air still functioning
- No Hive Mind Emulators
- No Upgraded Ghost Range
- No Perdition Turrets
- Psi Disrupters Available
- All Mercenary Groups available
- Bunkers have an extra gun, not extra reinforcement.

There's a lot of stuff I don't have for this mission, but I'm not too keen on the idea of having to restart the whole thing. I find it hard to believe that Blizzard would make a game where any choice you make would put you in a no win situation, so I'm wondering if anyone's beaten if with the above criteria. Any help would be appreciated!
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05/28/2013 04:04 PMPosted by StarSquall
There's a lot of stuff I don't have for this mission, but I'm not too keen on the idea of having to restart the whole thing.


You can probably redo the whole campaign in one day on casual difficulty, buy the best tech, and then try this again. That's what I did when I got Aces High. It's a pain but the truth is that it may actually save you time in the long run, considering how much time you could end up wasting if you try over and over and over again and fail.

As for a strategy for getting it without the best tech, well, I'm not sure I could get it even if I had the best tech, and I'm not about to try. Good luck though.
Edited by Torloch on 5/28/2013 4:59 PM PDT
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I'm actually trying to get all the achievements done, so I must beat it on brutal.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that you have to beat them on brutal all in the same run. You just have to beat each mission on brutal. If you look at your achievement, you have checks next to each mission except for All In.

So you can definitely replay the whole campaign on casual while getting better tech, go to All In on the mission archives afterwards, click "play brutal" on the right side, and get your achievement.

I got "hard completionist" just from replaying the missions in the mission archives. I never actually started a new campaign on hard. The game kept track of which levels I completed.
Edited by Torloch on 5/30/2013 10:41 PM PDT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mLQwNWhH3s

Try this way... It was done with no upgrades, and using only the tech path of the mission (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3881884388 -> original topic)

What did I do?

I got some tanks, turrets and bunkers on both sides. I filled the top with turrets, I got around 10 battlecruisers, placed around 5 SCVs in each side and in the artifact's highground, and left around 40 supply for marines to handle Kerrigan.

Some notes
• Rebuild anything you lose and replace the death SCVs. That's elemental.
• The battlecruisers should Yamato the broodlords as soon as they appear.
• You can use the energy nova for free in one of the first 2 waves, then you should use it every time that Kerrigan appears to kill her escort. The last use should be before Kerrigan appears (around 92%). After it you should move all your units to the highground.
• You have to unsiege your tanks and spare all your units around your base when the overlords come.
• You have to place turrets and leave 1 or 2 battlecruisers at the back after the first Kerrigan attack.
• Never stop upgrading. I would get first the armor for air units (to survive the leviathan) and infantry (to last more against kerrigan), and the dmg for mech.
• If you have vikings, they may be more useful than the battlecruisers in this mission.
• Use the Psi disrupters. They will make you micro less, and increase the lifetime of your barricades. Don't place only one per side. Use several.
• Unsiege your tanks when broodlords get in range.
• Split the marines when facing Kerrigan in the third and the forth engages.
• After the third Kerrigan's approach, you have to save the energy of your battlecruisers. Right after the leviathan appears, get a good concave and mass yamato him. If you have vikings, killing it should be easier.
• Don't lose your Cruisers nor your tanks.
• Don't overcomit on tanks. 5 or 6 on each side are enough.
• There are some heavy waves. In order to hold them you have to pull all your tanks to one side.
• When you pull all your units to hold the last 10%, don't let the tanks sieged, and hold position with every unit. They have to dull the onslaught, not stop it.
• If you need a little extra time at the end to survive, pull your buildings and block everything. Some buildings can be used to "distract" Kerrigan making her follow them.
Edited by Cacho on 5/29/2013 8:50 AM PDT
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Torloch
Edited by Torloch on 5/28/13 10:19 PM (PDT)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that you have to beat them on brutal all in the same run. You just have to beat each mission on brutal. If you look at your achievement, you have checks next to each mission except for All In.

So you can definitely replay the whole campaign on casual while getting better tech, go to All In on the mission archives afterwards, click "play brutal" on the right side, and get your achievement.

I got "hard campaign ace" just from replaying the missions in the mission archives. I never actually started a new campaign on hard. The game kept track of which levels I completed.


For the mission aspect no many play throughs but for the 25 brutal mission achievement yes that is in one playthrough. There will be a list of mission that still need to be done and you cant actually get the Kerrigan portrait until you hit the archives and do Safe Haven or The ghost mission or visa versa based on which one you choose in campaign. I would suggest doing a runthrough on normal to get the good tech then do the last mission on brutal for the achievement. Oh and attacking the platform or nydus caverns.
Edited by BlckSheepOne on 5/30/2013 6:56 PM PDT
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3 PFs per side with 8 scvs behind it for repairs.
8 tanks per side behind PFs (sorry CPT obvious here)
wpns on ground and air wpns and armor
2 psi disruptors per side on on high ground other on the far side of high ground.
Then a critical mass of vikings to deal with the air.

If Kerrigan is a problem like 8 banshees to DPS her so she focuses them instead of the tanks and scvs.

Other than that if you still are having problems let me know and I can B-line a campaign to where you are and just write every tech and research you have done and I will try it out. I love the campaign so it doesn't bother me to play it again. Probably more of a pain for you to write all your tech and research down then it is anything.

GL HF
Edited by BlckSheepOne on 5/30/2013 7:09 PM PDT
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here is what i think is the easiest tech path for the final brutal mission. use the psi disruptor, banshee and siege tanks( with their upgrade from the console of course) and kill the air leaving the nydus worm where the siege tanks should be able to handle the units spawning from the nydus worm and the banshee can pick the nydus worm off and help dps down kerrigan plus you got the artifact for those hard to reach nydus worm. air is much more annoying cause the broodlord outrange you, mutalisk bounce can kill scvs and the leviathan is a pain in a butt. just my opinion.
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So, I've beaten 28 of the 29 brutal missions but every thing I try to research for the final mission is either something I didn't research or I've chosen another path. So I was wondering if anyone happened to know a good strategy for beating All In USING THE FOLLOWING PARAMETERS:

- Nydus Worms eliminated - Air still functioning
- No Hive Mind Emulators
- No Upgraded Ghost Range
- No Perdition Turrets
- Psi Disrupters Available
- All Mercenary Groups available
- Bunkers have an extra gun, not extra reinforcement.

There's a lot of stuff I don't have for this mission, but I'm not too keen on the idea of having to restart the whole thing. I find it hard to believe that Blizzard would make a game where any choice you make would put you in a no win situation, so I'm wondering if anyone's beaten if with the above criteria. Any help would be appreciated!

Check mine out, we have similar scenario, I think mine is literately unbeatable. (I didn't do it on purpose!) But I'll be dammed if I just reverse and start over, there has to be a way!
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7979929582
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