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@Mappy: if its 10 vs 1 lol

@Crazyperson: not really... in 4v4 my opponent went voids only... i went phoenix only. focus fired and killed him badly. the battle ratio was 3:2. 3 phon for every 2 void. he eventually raged quit. 3 min later zerg raged quit because i keep supply blocking him...

@Mappy: were your Phoenixes fully upgraded?
Were the Void rays fluuy upgraded

@Mappy: Its cuz phoenix are the couter to voids :P

@Crazyperson: ya I think you ARE a Crazyperson
:P

@simon: there is no counter. just response. the response to voids are phonixes or a bit more stalkers just like the response to fast colossi is more marauders. then you can stomp them and he must retreat and respond.

example. TvP

Protoss go fast colossi. marine and marauders go to inflict pressure. sees colossi. retreat. get mor tech labs. get more mauaders. go out. engage. toss retreats. chrono some immortals. terran retreats. gets more marines or tech to banshee. toss sees cloak banshees retreat and chrono a observer. go warp more stalkers.

logic behind response.
so marines counter immortals... but what about that colossi?
phonixes counter banshees... but you tech to robo. not stargate. and what about his bio army?
stalkers are not the "counter" but they work. you also need sentries to forcefield their bio army to stay alive. so stalkers sentries and observers are the response to bio army with banshees

@Mappy: LOL, and picking up workers at the mineral line and destroying them!

@ThePraetor: rage quit to mutas :D in 4v4 i always screw zerg with these and keep supply blocking them till they called me a noob

@Mappy: I use one with a void to kill queens. Queens kill Vrays 1 on 1 (I think), and so picking it up destroys it.

@Amridell: the only problom is that mutas tear up voids.

@Mappy: No they can kill vikings, siprisingly voidrays, mutas also they can harrass, stop harrass and one of my favorites getting like six and attacking a turtle terran by rushing my ground army up there then picking up tanks with pheonix so they can't do splash.

@Doncroft: they did

@Mappy: It's not a buff; it's an upgrade at the Fleet Beacon, and it's not Heart of the Swarm; it's NOW.

@Doncroft: o.O

@Mappy: it's actualy very powerful againist ol drop

@LittlebigQc: very lucky to see a vac on its way there. most likely before the phonixes engage the marines have gotten out. o.O good for takeing out banshiees

Thats the point, like those damn Seige tanks in seige mode that you cant even apprach.

@Protossnam: Take off archon. They are massive, and are now perfect counter against pheonix

4vs4 doesnt count for anything, neither does 3vs3 or 2vs2

@Vhailor: you can make them attack and fly just by running away from an enemy, the will turn around still moving away and fire if the try's is hostile.

@rocket: and don't for get to keep them in range

@marionette: With a range of 4, they're going to end up getting hit as they move anyway. Makes the manuverability kinda pointless.

@Vhailor: Well mutas hae to stop to attack so when the phoenixes attack while going backwards the mutas have to stop and if they are locked by attack move they won't hit the phoenixes since they are moving to fast.

@StarFighter: Really?????????

that would be VERY BAD!

@StarFighter: send in mass probes to take out the turrets