Updated Combat Resurrection Design

Updated Combat Resurrection Design

The design for combat resurrection effects has changed a good deal for Cataclysm, and we want to make sure players are clear on how spells like Rebirth and Create Soulstone now function. Rebirth has a 10-minute cooldown and Create Soulstone has a 15-minute cooldown. On raid boss encounters, you can only use one of these combat resurrection spells (so one Rebirth or one Soulstone) per attempt for 10-player raids. For 25-player raids you can use three forms of combat resurrection per raid boss attempt (so three of any combination of Rebirth and Soulstone). The count is incremented as soon as a player accepts a resurrection, so one can always choose not to accept if he or she wants someone else to get the resurrection instead. There is no equivalent of the Sated debuff (which tracks Bloodlust/Heroism usage), but you will get an error message if you try to resurrect too many players, and we might add tracking to our raid interface if there is demand for it. Outside of raid content, you can use as many battle resurrections as you have available.

For those of you currently participating in the World of Warcraft: Cataclysm beta test, please note that this functionality may not be fully implemented as of yet. If you notice combat resurrections are not currently functioning as explained here, this is just a heads-up about the updated design intent behind them.

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Paladinwtf
Frostmane
Paladinwtf
11/8/2010
Paladins should get DI back imo.
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Desantos
Magtheridon
Desantos
11/8/2010
@Paladinwtf: Yes what in the sam hell happened? DI was awesome!
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Paladinwtf
Frostmane
Paladinwtf
11/8/2010
@Desantos: DI generated MANY memorable... memories? Yes, DI brought joy and happiness! It brought about pranks, saving of lives, comical relief in certain situations, a "I'm bored, look what I can do" situation, it even brought about the reaction from someone who had never experienced DI... as in "omg wtf! I can't move! I'm bugged or something, let me relog!"
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Xelarea
Eonar
Xelarea
11/8/2010
@Paladinwtf: DI saved my tree's butt so many times in raids. I was always the first to spot. I guess trees and DI go hand in hand =[ and neither remain today... Please bring back the two, or at least give us glyphs for the abilities >_<
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Whö
Bloodscalp
Whö
11/8/2010
@Paladinwtf: DI had many fun and important factors in the game. i believe that blizz shuld bring it back so we can keep messing with people when we are bored :)
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Hotaruu
Bonechewer
Hotaruu
11/16/2010
@Paladinwtf: yeah again, idk why this was removed either.
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Docturi
Kil'jaeden
Docturi
11/8/2010
Cool!
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Paradaxal
Doomhammer
Paradaxal
11/8/2010
So rebirth > Soulstone because you choose the target AFTER the death...
How is this fair at all for soulstone.
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Naturale
Silver Hand
Naturale
11/7/2010
Well, I think it's an interesting change to the mix. To be honest half the time I've tried to battle rez... then people wouldn't even take them because they afk'd while we finished the fight....

On that note though, I hope it does make people pay more attention to how they died as there are now *limited* continues. Plus... this should keep raids from stacking locks and druids strictly due to the fact we can rez in combat.
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Khijin
Nagrand
Khijin
11/7/2010
@Naturale: My Dreams Of Raiding The Lich King With 2 Druid Tanks, 3 Trees, and 3 Boomies And Two Kitties Has Been Shattered.
and all you can say is "interesting change".... I think it makes it boring.

besides, if that damned druid res's someone after I soulstone myself cause the raid was failing what the hell am I s'posed to do then? I gotta walk back before I ragequit!
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Leovin
Crushridge
Leovin
11/8/2010
@Khijin: Haha awe.... I am sorry to see your dreams shattered of a full Druid party Khijin. I wish you a fair adventure in WoW, may you find peace.

I like the this new implementation because it supports party's without rezs, or lack there of. I hated the fact we couldn't rez for the next fight since rebirth was already used in the last fight... so 30 min CD is not fun. 10m CD but only one use during fights is fine by me.
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Poonßlaster
Blackrock
Poonßlaster
11/7/2010
good stuff
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Shortmann
Eonar
Shortmann
11/7/2010
I for one think it's a good thing. Forces players to actually pay attention rather than rely on a crutch. You stood in the fire, sucks to be you, next time you'll know pay more attention to the fight, rather than relying on the druid to pick you back up again.
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Wildwràth
Stormrage
Wildwràth
11/7/2010
@Shortmann: i agree but u cant help when lag and stuff comes into play ... so having more than 1 battle rez is nice and i think there sould be no limit
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Korvina
Drenden
Korvina
11/7/2010
@Shortmann: i'm more of a crutch kinda person
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Tawne
Dark Iron
Tawne
11/8/2010
@Korvina: Then you should play an easier game.
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Kremmy
Saurfang
Kremmy
11/15/2010
@Shortmann: I for one think The proposed removal of all healers from wow is also a good thing. Forces players to actually pay attention rather than rely on the priest as a crutch. You held threat too long, sucks to be you, next time you'll know pay more attention to the fight, rather than relying on the priest to top you back up again.
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Ðeath
Norgannon
Ðeath
11/7/2010
uhmm ... gonna be interesting.
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Yeslek
Tichondrius
Yeslek
11/7/2010
People should be able to go into a raid knowing that that they will have full command of the abilities given to them, knowing that they can fully utilize the inherent strength of their character. This just interrupts immersion and feels superficial.
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Duurrpp
Executus
Duurrpp
11/7/2010
Um how offen will my avatar update, I dont want to be stuck in my crap alt gear and appear to be a titan forge all-star, i have real gear to show off. that is all
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Venqmurkan
Cairne
Venqmurkan
11/7/2010
Hurrayyyy for blizzard.. they continue to find ever more ways to upset and tick off PAYing customers. You nerf the resto druid any more they will have to play the game wearing a billboard sign or wooden barrel for clothes and have light feathers for a weapon.
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Sofy
Borean Tundra
Sofy
11/7/2010
@Venqmurkan: lol
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Roxxie
Korialstrasz
Roxxie
11/7/2010
@Venqmurkan:
First off resto druids got buffed not nerfed. I highly dout you know how to balance games, You get Alot for you're $$ worth. How many other games give FREE DLC??? You are not a rainbow of pure indivdualism, you're 15$ a months is no more then my 15$ a month. I Like that they are making CaT Harder, Woltk was Boring as all hell. so get over you're self.
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Warlockwtf
Frostmane
Warlockwtf
11/8/2010
@Roxxie: Seriously, Druids are WAY too powerful now, I felt I was slapped in the face when a Resto Driud beat my Paladin heals... tsk tsk, I need to step it up with these changes. I love how Blizzard basically remade the game!
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Mulgarza
Aman'Thul
Mulgarza
11/7/2010
i for 1 like these changes, will make raiding more fun and will get people to be more aware of there surroundings..
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Superbaby
Tichondrius
Superbaby
11/7/2010
so we gonna get few more battle rez?
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Niilit
Doomhammer
Niilit
11/7/2010
Oh great, that explains why we could only Brez three times in out TOGC the other day.
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Sandewr
Madoran
Sandewr
11/7/2010
FINE
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Ðeathwing
Garithos
Ðeathwing
11/7/2010
great idea, now time to switch back to my druid for raiding some SW >_>.
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Goldentild
Doomhammer
Goldentild
11/7/2010
this sounds great i can't wait for cata!
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Ricktrolled
Malorne
Ricktrolled
11/7/2010
rad!
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Derewoprevo
Blackwing Lair
Derewoprevo
11/7/2010
cool
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Deathfisting
Jubei'Thos
Deathfisting
11/7/2010
I like the sound of this change, Should make fights a little more difficult.

Also, giving warlocks a combat rez with soulstone will be good, many will call it homogenization of the classes, but i think increasing the chances you have a combat rez will help.
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Bineck
Stonemaul
Bineck
11/7/2010
@Jaggawowmot: Walrocks have had the soulstone since vanilla
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Giborim
Blackwing Lair
Giborim
11/7/2010
@Bineck: Yeah but blizz said they might make soulstones usable on dead players. I assume its to balance both spells affected by the cd.
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Dalavara
Vek'nilash
Dalavara
11/7/2010
Blizzard has the nerf bat out for druids......Limiting the combat rezzes, that is a direct nerf of one of the druids unique abilities....nerfing our hots...regrowth down from 20 sec to 6, upping the cost of casting rejuv, and only being able to cast lifebloom on one target is certainly taking the fun out of playing the class, not to mention our beloved treeform. (/cry no one can find me in raids anymore, because I look like everyone else.)
I don't want to be a priest......I am a druid...please blizz stop making all classes the same. I like my druid uniqueness. Give me back my treeform too.
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Wildwràth
Stormrage
Wildwràth
11/7/2010
@Dalavara: i agree being a druid for 3years i loved my treeform .... it was unique and the hole point of being a druid i think is so u can transform into bears cats mookins ....i say u take 1 a way might as well take them all away and make us all the same :(
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Xano
Earthen Ring
Xano
11/8/2010
@Dalavara: I heard there was a Glyph or something to keep Treeform looking like a, well, Tree. Though, that just depends on whether you have the free slot or not.
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Paradox
Burning Legion
Paradox
11/7/2010
is reincarnation included with this too? or no
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Sereena
Ghostlands
Sereena
11/7/2010
anyone know what the new stuff well be?