World of Warcraft®

People complain to much. The nerf does suck at least for the guilds still trying to down ragnaros. But remember, they are doing this so people can get gear before the next raid hits. Expect the unexpected. My guess would be that they plan on making Deathwing's raid so hard that not having Firelands gear will result in not having the dps/hps/tank mitigation to even be able to do the bosses.

can we make my level 80 characters able to enter too?
going to be easy enough for them soon enough.

all these people saying the game is going downhill, yet you keep shelling out your 15 a month, as if blizz cares about your whining, they're getting their profit.

R.I.P fire lands might as well not have happened.

Ghostcrawler has to be Nerfed !!

This is far too soon. It's even admitted in the post that they didnt nerf t11 raids by this amount until firelands was here! The current tuning of the content is about perfect for a semi-hardcore raider with some casuals in the team and it would be sad to be able to let jagged tear stack to 20 and go lolwin...

Please Blizzard, this is too soon! my guild is just getting started on Heroic modes and are really enjoying the challenge now that normal difficulty is 1shot. At least wait until 4.3 is looming or here, as with the previous tier of raiding.

And another subscription lost

Easier = better. Remember kids, everyone has a right to see the raid content, even the ones who just hit 85. Can we just skip to the part where you completely convert this to a first person shooter?

Nerfing normal modes is cool, lets more people see the content, which is the point.

Nerfing heroic modes (outside of bug fixes and improper tuning.. aka Baleroc 25H) is not cool, people do heroic modes for the challenge and prestige, if people want to see the content, normal modes are available to them.

This is good news.
We wiped 10 times on Beth last night, that was not even Heroic.

Nerf normal, not heroics, please.

Lol this is dumb. Nerfing isn't really an issue but the timing is. Oh well whatever this game has been going downhill for awhile anyway, might as well go a bit faster.

This.....is confusing. First, you was fine with nerfing the previous raids when the next one is released and now you're nerfing this one and 4.3 isn't even on the PTR. Why? This game was already boring with the exception of raiding and now you're dropping the nerfbat on this too?

Whatever..saw it coming, don't know why so many are acting surprised.

Dont care so long as they don't nerf rag more until much, much closer to 4.3.

Just gonna say this. My guild is not full of the best raiders, but we try pretty dang hard, every week we keep at the boss til we down it. And when we down the boss, we feel pride and a sense of accomplishment. Last tier we were able to down nearly all bosses on normal and were working(and failing) on Nef, and we felt pretty good about ourselves. But then the nerf came, Nef the cause of our nightmares, became a joke. We one shotted him the day the patch hit and felt cheated. Our guild fell apart shortly and the majority of Firelands was spent recreating our raid group. Now we finally get a competent raid together that has the potential to down all the bosses....and then you nerf firelands....this is why i'm upset.

Really no big nerfs till after 4.3

I'm not ever the person !@#$%ing on the forums about anything, but you couldn't have applied the hot fix to Ragnaros's HP at the same time?

I mean honestly, you guys nerfed him when 7 guilds in the US had killed him and less than 40 worldwide. The following week, at least in US progression, you would've seen at least 4-5 new kills.

Why hot fix everything a week after nerfing Ragnaros? And why when so few guilds had killed him? It didn't seem to make any sense to us.

I mean if in future tiers the concept is going to be, "Oh, well, it's been a month since Paragon killed the fight, time to dramatically reduce its difficulty." then why are we even working on these encounters?

It's a hell of a thing to work on a fight for a month when VERY FEW guilds had killed it and then see it hotfixed on a Tuesday night out of nowhere. It really just takes so much away from all of that effort.

LOUD NOISES

*Rant incoming*

While I can see why people get pissy when stuff like this is nerfed to the ground...it is neccessary, but if you have cleared it already then why not let them majority of the playerbase (aka most of the subs aka "casuals") will never see this content unless it's nerfed enough. (I am part of this group...not b/c I'm a bad player, it's because I can't dedicate the time to raid progress daily 3 or 4 days a week and only get 2 bosses down within that time the average WoW player.)

We play this game for fun, while yes difficulty is part of that fun...most of the time simply seeing the end of the content will make A LOT of people happy including me. I was very excited when i got my first LK kill back in Wrath post nerfs. I didn't give a !@#$ how hard it was, I just wanted to fight him and see him defeated. Is it so wrong to deny majority of the players closure to content just because the few who actually got to see it in it's prime got to see it first? What are we taking away from you? Pride? Your loot? Your achievements? You have your memories, your pride, your loot, and your achievements that prove you did it when it was "hard". Let us casuals have our pride, loot, and achievements. We pay that same $15 everyone else does, just spend less time in Azeroth as some of you do.

OH COME ON.

even nerfing heroics despite the fact that way more guilds are at the end raid boss much quicker then last tier?
as far as the damage dealt portion shall the healers just use t11 gear to not be dying of boredom? plenty of the heroic fights are all ready doable with 4-5 healers as is

Woot, can't wait, just awesome! :D /love blizzy

Wait til 4.3 PLEASE. Some people actually enjoy the challenge.