Raid Finder Q&A

Raid Finder Q&A

The new Raid Finder system is now live with patch 4.3.  While we’ve shared some details already, we wanted to provide you with this primer on what players can expect from the new system before taking on one of the most epic bosses Azeroth has ever seen.

Q.Who is Raid Finder for?
A.
Raid Finder is primarily intended for players who don’t already raid consistently. These are players who may not have had the opportunity to take part in raid content due to scheduling conflicts, playtime constraints, limited access to other raid-capable players, or a lack of experience with higher-end content. These players may want to experience World of Warcraft’s raid content and storyline without being able to commit to the additional time investment of a raiding guild. The Raid Finder is also a great way to quickly and easily gear up alternate characters without having to worry about raid lockouts.

Q. What size raid group will the Raid Finder support and why?
A. Raid Finder will match players up to form a 25-player raid. This allows for a more forgiving experience should errors be made by individual players. Raid Finder groups should be a fun way to experience raid content without feeling too punishing to inexperienced raiders.

Q.What is the Raid Finder difficulty level?
A.
Players who take part in Raid Finder groups can expect a similar difficulty level to the Baradin Hold Cataclysm raid.

Q. Are there any character or item level requirements to use the Raid Finder?
A. Yes. You will need to be level 85 with a minimum item level of 372.

Q.What type of loot and items can I expect to get?
A.
The items that can be earned are a lower item level than those found in Normal mode Raid Dungeons. Weapons will only be available from Deathwing himself.

Q. How does loot distribution work?
A.
All Raid Finder groups determine loot distribution using the “Need Before Greed” system. Unlike Dungeon Finder, players who are identified as rolling need on an item that fits their primary role will be given loot priority over those who play a different role. You can read more about item distribution and loot roll rules here. While Raid Finder raids aren’t locked, players are only eligible to win loot from a boss once per week.

Q. How do I use Raid Finder?
A.
You can access Raid Finder through the ‘Raid’ button in the menu at the bottom of the default user interface.

Q. How does Raid Finder populate the raid? Can I invite my friends?
A.
Raid Finder will populate the raid with other players who enter the Raid Finder system. Each Raid Finder raid will include two tanks, six healers, and seventeen damage dealers. As the raid is assembled, the Raid Finder will attempt to balance the group according to armor type, which should help ensure a healthy mix of melee and ranged DPS. There are no additional invite capabilities for the raid leader or other members of the raid, however, groups of players are able to queue together, either as a party or a raid, should they wish to raid together.

Q: Does Raid Finder support Real ID friends?
A:
With patch 4.3, you can invite Real ID friends to a party and then queue together for the Dragon Soul raid using Raid Finder. You can't, however form a raid with cross-realm Real ID friends before joining the Raid Finder queue. While not currently supported, this is something that we’re interested in implementing in a future update.

Q. What raids are available?
A.
The Dragon Soul raid dungeon will be available in the Raid Finder and has been split into two wings. Players will be able to access the first wing at the release of patch 4.3. Deathwing will become available approximately one week later.

Q. Why aren’t older raids available on Raid Finder?
A. Raid Finder is being used to help players access the most current content and tier gear available within the game.  Additional options for the system may be considered in the future.

Q. Can I earn any particular currency with Raid Finder?
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Players can earn up to 500 Valor points per week (250 per wing) while utilizing Raid Finder.

Q. How often can I enter the Raid Finder system?
A.
Each boss within the Dragon Soul raid can be killed once per week for a chance at loot. Since there are no raid locks, skipping a boss will not impede your ability to attempt that boss in a future raid.

 

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Khori
Malfurion
Khori
12/1/2011
@Fahkundeekay: Yes they did a horrible job describing many features of the patch...the truth is "eligable to win" by that you are given once chance to win each week, then locked out regardless of results. So you kill a boss, now you may roll on it and be "eligable to win" once. Yes they should re-word it to "Players may be eligable for loot each boss per week".
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Koroc
Blackrock
Koroc
11/30/2011
Did they new instances several times now on most of my toons, I really do like em but with the VP cap to 1000 and no loot chance after 4 bosses down in LFR what do we do now Blizz,Darkmoon Faire not my thing PVP not really my thing,I hate grinding and queting for stuff. So now i'm stuck not getting a gear piece from VP once a week to once every 2 weeks,unless i'm mistaken it seems that way and this new sysytem has set some causals back a bit.
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Fabreeze
Smolderthorn
Fabreeze
11/30/2011
LOL @Koroc: YOu know what the funniest thing is, This whole patch was for the casual player, and allowing them to get geared like the hardcore raiders are. SO much for that Idead, You gotta better chance at getting t13 from pugging chat, than you do with the new blizz casual system!!
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Durpycat
Kel'Thuzad
Durpycat
11/30/2011
@Blessyou: because you know for sure you can down all 8 bosses on the first day with raid finder, rite?
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Keepzlol
Sargeras
Keepzlol
12/1/2011
@Koroc: This is what you call lazy...
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Koroc
Blackrock
Koroc
11/30/2011
Aye agree So i did the same got me ilvl up and que'd LFR BAM 4 bosses down , no loot now im locked out of loot and i'm VP capped for the week so.....now wtf do I do.oH go back to what blizz said they wanted to help fix sitting in Org bs'ing
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Fabreeze
Smolderthorn
Fabreeze
11/30/2011
OKAY so here goes, Got my hunter to 372 to do the random raid finder. Cool fights, HOWEVER!!!! 4 items per boss for 25 ppl, COME ON!!!!! You can only do 4 bosses :( I was all excited when i saw that I could reque, BUT you cant loot each boss once per week.!!!!! WTF, why even bother doing the raid finder, you gotta be extremely lucky to get anything for your class to drop, and then you have to have the blessing of every freaking god in the book to not get outrolled by some multiboxing tard! WTG on a extremely dissapointing adventure!!!
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Arcelies
Thrall
Arcelies
11/30/2011
@Fabreeze: if you run yours at the end of the week, you might find that everyone else is loot locked ;)
just a thought
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Ifeelok
The Venture Co
Ifeelok
12/1/2011
@Fabreeze: agreed in an attempt to speed up gearing they have slowed it now with jerk off ppl. need rolling gear they already have it could take 8 months to get 1 drop if any:(
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Zinkal
Skullcrusher
Zinkal
11/30/2011
Blizzard big issue with the not letting older raid content being used in the raid finder. You are using it for most current raid content. What about people who haven't upgraded to Cata and are still stuck in Vanilla, BC, or WotLK? They can't even reach the level required to use the raid finder. Also I am a "newer" player and have done very minimal raiding when it comes to WoW in general because of gear and me not being able to do older raids which can't judge me on gear or DPS. And no one wants to really do the raids who have experienced the raid content before. Which is bad when a lvl 85 goes into a lvl 60 raid and wipes easily with other lvl 60 and 70 players who dont know the raid either. And thats if I can get a group together. So please add it by MoP.
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Sparkzmaster
Dreadmaul
Sparkzmaster
11/30/2011
@Zinkal: The new 5-man dungeons address this issue because the gear is good enough from it to allow you into the new raids.
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Ciryn
Blackwater Raiders
Ciryn
11/30/2011
Love the idea of the Raid Finder. I also agree with previous posters that it is very dissapointing that it only includes the newest Raids. I would like to see it work for all Raids in the Game, give us that have real jobs and limited time a chance to experience the older Raids too, Classic, Burning Crusade and Lich King, not everyone has had a chance at those Raids and it is so hard to find people interested in doing them.
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Serjag
Stormreaver
Serjag
11/30/2011
One thing that I am disappointed with is that they limited it to only the newest raids. I think if they were thinking about adding it they should have made all raids available and not left it half a$$ed. It is a great idea, I will give them that. It just seems like it was not given as much though as they should have given it. We all know there are people that do not raid regularly or even play WoW constantly. Most of the time People will play for a month or 2 after a major patch comes out. When players come back it becomes an increasing challenge to try and catch up to the current raids due to not being geared enough. You could spend a week trying to get one piece of VP gear or if the lower raids were available in the raid finder it would be much easier to be able to gear for the newer content. I hope Blizzard has their teams working on updating all raids at all levels into the raid finder. I would like to see it become more like the dungeon finder because it allows people easier access to game content that otherwise would be more frustrating to get due to the failure to get groups together to do the raid. I would not limit requirements to just Item level to be able to use the raid browser but would think that achievements would be also a good way to meet requirements as it can prove a players ability to execute actions and movements in a fight. This would help weed out people that are unskilled and were able to get just enough gear to be able to do the raid. Also I would suggest that there be a limit to the lowest item level a person can have for the raid. I have seed that in the dungeon finder you can get stuck with someone that barley makes the item level requirement and is wearing several pieces of LOW level green gear and only to hold their group back because they are unable to hold their own.
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I am so stoked for this. As many have mentioned...life sometimes gets in the way of game play. I am not yet geared, but ran my first of the new dungeons last night and had a blast with that...wish I would have had time to continue. Getting to 372 is now a goal and an attainable one.
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Picomage
Bronzebeard
Picomage
11/30/2011
It is a good thing. I am disappointed about the angry comments some people are posting, though. I like content more than raids myself, and applaud the new dungeons that Blizzard has added. This is a majestically complex game, and those of you who think that changing anything is easy should take a couple years of advanced "C" programming.
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Durpycat
Kel'Thuzad
Durpycat
11/30/2011
why can only do first half of raid?
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Cathayn
Wyrmrest Accord
Cathayn
11/30/2011
@Durpycat: Next half wont be released until next week
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Durpycat
Kel'Thuzad
Durpycat
11/30/2011
@Cathayn:
why
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Unitard
Skullcrusher
Unitard
11/30/2011
@Durpycat: For the guilds to have a chance to down Deathwing before any pugs do. Very good idea imo.
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Durpycat
Kel'Thuzad
Durpycat
11/30/2011
@Unitard: cuz raid finder difficulty matters rite?
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Chillomatic
Drak'thul
Chillomatic
11/30/2011
So I was just wondering because i saw a lot of people with more then 2 itms from LFR yesterday. I though you can only get 1 droped itm per week. I say a rogue with 3 peices, a pallie with 2 and a warrior with 2. All had the new sholders, and either legs or chest.
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Circeth
Trollbane
Circeth
11/30/2011
@Chillomatic: Nope... if the 4 bosses drop a token each, you can roll on all of them. The lock is per boss, not per run
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Megåmån
Frostmane
Megåmån
11/30/2011
One thing I will say is that the new dungeons seem really easy, even in pugs I was able to get through all of them fairly easy on my dk and they are fun as hell though. So far i'm enjoying this patch and I'm glad blizz has put in something for everyone.

I think the only people having trouble with this are the same people who think they are so cool that like(d) to stand in storm wind, sh*t talking in trade bragging about their kara runs. Nothing much is new 7 years later, people talking about how good they are and how bad everyone else is, attempting to be witty at someone elses expense, and generally just being douche bags... IMO the game (and this planet) can do without these degenerate backwater redneck hick attitudes. I really hope blizzs moves weed out the elitists! Play nice people, and hevfun! :D
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Terminex
Drak'Tharon
Terminex
11/30/2011
the way they did the raid finder is stupid I think
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Noblesse
Windrunner
Noblesse
11/30/2011
Question? My guilds going to do Dragon Soul this Fri & Sat. If i was to use LFR and downed the first 2 bosses, would i be saved to the first 2 for the coming guild raid? Or is safe for me to use and still be able to join my guild?
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Circeth
Trollbane
Circeth
11/30/2011
@Noblesse: It is completely safe. I finished the 4 bosses the LFR has right now, and then went and did a 10-man with the guild.

LFR doesn't even create a lock
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Muffintöpp
Mal'Ganis
Muffintöpp
11/30/2011
@Circeth: The raid finder does lock(sort of). A loot lock that is. But the LFR and the Normal & Heroic versions of the raid have Different Locks. You can do the Entire LFR, and still do the Entire Normal and Heroic version of the raid, on the same day.
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Aalo
Frostmane
Aalo
11/30/2011
@Noblesse:
Raid finder is separate lockouts from 10/25 man normal/heroic modes
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Circeth
Trollbane
Circeth
11/30/2011
The only complaint I have so far is that if you rolled for something from a boss but didn't win a thing throughout the whole raid, you're screwed until the next week to be able to try to win something again.
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Durpycat
Kel'Thuzad
Durpycat
11/30/2011
@Circeth: just like a normal raid
you must not be used to that sort of thing, i guess
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Muffintöpp
Mal'Ganis
Muffintöpp
11/30/2011
@Durpycat: If you WIN a loot roll, then you can not loot from that boss for a week. If you roll need and lose the roll, you can do it over again and try and get the loot.
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Beastyknewl
Twisting Nether
Beastyknewl
11/30/2011
@Muffintöpp: it doesn't work that way sir, i ran twice with my hunter and did not win anything at the bosses, yet still getting locked out of loot when i ran it again
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Steadyfeet
Earthen Ring
Steadyfeet
12/1/2011
@Circeth: Welcome to raiding.
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Megåmån
Frostmane
Megåmån
11/30/2011
@CATHAYN

LOVED YOUR RANT! MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!
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Knownkilla
Drenden
Knownkilla
11/30/2011
TBH Getting the item lvl 372 isn't hard, the new cata dungeons drop items with 378, so you have to do a little bit of work to get a bit geared but not much the new dungeons are so easy that you will get there in no time, also for all the people moaning about the LFR being a easy toned down raid.... thats exactly what it is, it is so that people who arnt raiding alot or anr not good can practice it without getting pwned in the real thing and pissing everyone off. Also the gear they are getting in the raid is toned down so for everyone who is doing the real thing you are getting the better items
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Celiac
Malfurion
Celiac
11/30/2011
Does anyone know if you still get raid achievements if you use the raid finder?
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Phailface
Lightning's Blade
Phailface
11/30/2011
@Celiac: They said something about this somewhere, but I believe you're going to get very basic ones, like "Completed Dragon Soul" But no special titles, difficult task achieves, pets from achieves nothing like that. Basically just "I beat this raid with LFR and all I got was this lousy title" lol
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Circeth
Trollbane
Circeth
11/30/2011
@Celiac: Yup, you do.
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Bettina
Ravenholdt
Bettina
11/30/2011
Why does it show transmog of half of the people here and not me?
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Cathayn
Wyrmrest Accord
Cathayn
11/30/2011
@Bettina: It does show it, YOU just can't see it.