Dragon Soul Difficulty Changes

Dragon Soul Difficulty Changes

During the scheduled server maintenance on the week of January 31, the Dragon Soul raid will become enveloped by the “Power of the Aspects” spell, reducing the health and damage dealt of all enemies in the raid by 5%. This spell will grow progressively stronger over time to reduce the difficulty and make the encounters more accessible. The spell will affect both normal and Heroic difficulties, but it will not affect the Looking for Raid difficulty.


The spell can also be disabled by talking to Lord Afrasastrasz at the beginning of Dragon Soul, if a raid wishes to attempt the encounters without the aid of the Dragon Aspects.

For those of you who raided in Firelands and/or Icecrown you’re no doubt aware that as time goes on we want to keep people progressing by adjusting the difficulty. For any number of reasons a group may be having difficulty on a specific encounter each week, and our intent in adjusting the content is to ensure the ability to keep progressing, enjoying the content, and gearing up. With Icecrown we progressively buffed the players, and while this slow progression (and ability to opt-out of the buff) were both beneficial, it led to an expectation of your characters power, and once you left the raid you could certainly feel less effective. For Firelands we attempted to fix that by nerfing the content instead of buffing players, but we nerfed the content difficulty all at one time, which was counterproductive for players who really didn’t need as severe a change as we made. With Dragon Soul we’re attempting to do the best of both by having a progressive nerf to the content, keeping player power constant while providing small increases in assistance over a long period of time, as well as allowing players to opt-out of the assistance by speaking to Lord Afrasastrasz.

We hope you continue to enjoy Dragon Soul, and that these changes encourage you to attempt a higher difficulty, or just keep pushing to down that next boss.

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Kindal
Mok'Nathal
Kindal
2/1/2012
You think now less people will wipe on Spine and Madness? LOL! Cakewalk fights that just got easier....
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Soulhammèr
Zul'jin
Soulhammèr
2/1/2012
@Kindal: They only nerfed normal mode, which you have not cleared. They said LFR would not receive this nerf.
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Centarii
Wyrmrest Accord
Centarii
2/2/2012
@Soulhammèr: LolOloLolOlol, tho i will give benefit of the doubt on him doing it on another toon.
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Tetraxion
Medivh
Tetraxion
2/1/2012
changes are changes, and if u like to complain, be my guest. i think for one that its cool that blizz does this.
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Dåmen
Cho'gall
Dåmen
2/1/2012
Ty blizz for understanding not everyone wants these insane nerfs when they are in mid progression and some do. Looks like u are finally putting content out for everyone thats how i see it anyway.
And all the posts i'm reading on this thread so far all i see is people complaining about people complaining. I dont see many posts about people complaining about these changes ... but then again i have'nt read them all. But i dont see what there is to complain about they are given u the option to turn the nerfs off so raiding can still be fun for people who enjoy the challenge. Only thing i would like to see is some kind of achievement for killing the boss's with the buff turned off.
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Centarii
Wyrmrest Accord
Centarii
2/1/2012
@Dåmen: "...all the posts i'm reading on this thread so far all i see is people complaining about people complaining." a philosophical quote there... And I Complain to Agree for the Achivements... UNLESS you open up the Herald of the Titans achive for 85s... then I won't think of you as so hypocritical blizzard <3
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Zarven
The Underbog
Zarven
2/1/2012
@Dåmen: " Only thing i would like to see is some kind of achievement for killing the boss's with the buff turned off." Either that or just no achieves earned without buff off. Lol either way
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Killsaurus
Cho'gall
Killsaurus
2/1/2012
Why are people so outraged? They made it specifically so you have the option to TURN IT OFF. Just because other people are going to use it and enjoy raiding better you all feel the need to !@#$% and say the game is too easy? Everyone wants Vanilla back, and most people who say that never even played it.. Vanilla was a disgusting grindfest where if you weren't a dedicated 3-5 time a week raider you would never see end game content, and that type of game just doesn't work right now because people want to play a video game, not have some week long commitment.. Think before you speak people, Blizzard is a company and they are trying to balance profit with keeping everyone happy, people seem to forget that.
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Jayeon
Moon Guard
Jayeon
2/1/2012
@Killsaurus: Your my hero! ^_^
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Tydrellin
Undermine
Tydrellin
2/1/2012
@Killsaurus: well said
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Zarven
The Underbog
Zarven
2/1/2012
@Killsaurus: I know! I played in vanilla and really the game SUCKED. The fun part was lvling back then, and now at cap it's actually fun.
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Lunchbox
Scarlet Crusade
Lunchbox
2/1/2012
@Killsaurus: To be honest, I actually DO miss the grind fest that was Vanilla WoW; I felt an actual sense of accomplishment for what I was able to complete. However, I do completely agree with your statement, "Think before you speak people, Blizzard is a company and they are trying to balance profit with keeping everyone happy, people seem to forget that." Although I do wish Blizzard could one day make dedicated servers to the previous expansions so that I could play 1-60 the way it was originally, I doubt we will ever see it.
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Gleslen
Stonemaul
Gleslen
2/2/2012
@Killsaurus: *standing ovation*
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Suzumiya
Mok'Nathal
Suzumiya
2/2/2012
@Killsaurus: You have a point there.
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Shådë
Llane
Shådë
2/1/2012
Well I Understand both points of view it is exhilarating to work hard as a team to defeat new content and frustrating to have worked so hard and then have it made easier for others.
But there are raiders who are out there that love raiding and are GOOD that due to real life commitments cannot commit to guild progression, cant make the raid times , cant sit for 3hours for raid to finish for the night and who cant afford to wait around for a hour for people to show up.....
Are you saying they should never see end game content that they dont deserve to because they have real life expectations to meet? Come on now stop being so dem selfish.
However since they are nerfing it i know its optional but because they are and because people that do have the time to commit to progression work so hard I think they should add special or extra loot for those that defeat it without the buffs titles maybe? a special mount? <<<something for them to still show off and brag about ....
Oh and before you go looking me up this is a alt don't bother
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Coffinbringr
Stormrage
Coffinbringr
2/1/2012
@Shådë and everyone else that keeps saying that the nerfs let people see end game content:
I was under the impression that RAID FINDER was an easier encounter aimed at facilitating the duties of finding a group to raid with. HOWEVER, undeniably, it allows everyone capable of hitting the queue up button the ability to raid the end game raid. Admittedly, at a much easier level of play, but users still get to see end game content and pick up higher quality loot than if they top out at running HOT heroics with their friends/guild. That being said.. if Raidfinder allows everyone (especially those who are casual players) to see the end game content, then why nerf the actual end game raiding content to make it "more accessable" to a larger population?.. The larger population has their raid finder; us raiders have our normal and HM raids. It works for everyone. And Shade, I , similarly to you have RL responsibilities that limit my raiding to 2 nights a week. And I have seen a full 8/8 DS 10 and am working on HM's with the guild. It is possible on a tight schedule, and if you play with equally skilled players, you can clear 8/8 in less time than it takes raidfinder to do 4/8. I do agree btw, that there needs to be extra goodies involved for any team that beats current content without the nerfs. Blizz killed the reward for 25 man raiding and we saw a million 10 man teams pop up when the loot equalled out. Pretty soon we'll be loggin into the game and typing "/loot" and getting HM gear.
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Shådë
Llane
Shådë
2/1/2012
@Coffinbringr: Lets face it no matter what Blizz do someones going to find something to complain about I said I understand why your upset about the nerf ,and I am glad to hear you get to raid 2 nights a week with the guild .....however most guilds will not work around 1 persons schedule ......for instance I was in a big guild we would wait up to a hour for one person to show up for raid or hold the spot for them .....now the guild was informed of my commitments before I even joint ....so we wait 40 mins for one or 2 people in a 25m raid then I have to leave to pick up my sisters from school which they knew about and takes me like 10-15mins come back ....kicked for holding the raid up....after waiting 40 mins ..... as for the lfr you all say its easy and not the same as normal .....what if we want to try normal but we dont have the experience or leetness the rest of you do?

Yes 25m lfr is easy I have tanked it healed it and dpsed it .....what if i find it boring and just wana do 10m but dont have a weekly raid team to go in with 2 nights a week ? I lead a guild for a couple of years so I know all about having to be committed I organized 10 and 25mans I lead them I showed up every raid day on time and then of course as progress the gear rolls in and peoples attitudes grow along with their gear (not all but most do ) I stepped down in the end got tired of peoples leet jerks attitudes you need to remember we all started with nothing .... and to everyone complaining I have a question....since you can either choose to use the buff or not to.....exactly what do you think you are missing out on ?

Btw I do admire all of you who are lucky enough to be on a good raid team and already cleared ......well done and gratz.

I just got back from a 2month break few weeks ago and I will do normal I honestly don't care about the buff I don't care if they use it and I don't care if they don't but 1st I need to find 9 others that at lest have some skill and are willing to die untold times lol. Because I love raiding and will bang my head against a dem wall till it falls I refuse to be beaten.

Anyway Coffinbringr 10 pages later I would just like to say I wish you the best Dude keep up the goodwork
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Baconstrip
Emerald Dream
Baconstrip
2/1/2012
@Coffinbringr: Not just for the sake of seeing endgame content..lol at that idea. for the sake of defeating bosses at various difficulties and earning gear that boast the rest. DUUHHH
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Notagoblin
Kargath
Notagoblin
2/1/2012
@Coffinbringr:
Ah... hum. I... hm. Stamina sure is great! Err...

Back on topic, I have no way to make raids with my guild. I'm obviously geared for it, I read up on the fights and watch videos, I check EJ to make sure I'm using proper gems, keep up with my enchants (too lazy to get my tinkers right now : /) and yet because of my schedule I'm stuck running HOT heroics over and over again if I want to get any kind of an upgrade. Fun. Thanks blizz, I appreciate you doing this so maybe in the future I can PUG it or something.
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Centarii
Wyrmrest Accord
Centarii
2/1/2012
@Notagoblin: LOLOLOL Stam... Really though I must agree with Coffn though as for the ethics and morals of stam gemming... maybe I will throw up later.

Though to play on his toon a bit (out of love)... I just remember when the game was hard to the point where you had to gem and chant correctly so that your best performance = downing bosses while psudo trying to gear your best and do the *ok* rotation got you nothing. Some other gamers (Not most) miss or want that from WoW so I expected Heroic Modes to not be touched... sadly they are and I cry that my first H Morchok kill was after getting the Yellow Pages under my !@# to sit at the big boys table (patch/nerf)... i just like to get what I deserve and if I don't deserve to down a boss... it shouldn't happen with a handy-cap :)

Trolltearz Out!
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Zarven
The Underbog
Zarven
2/1/2012
@Shådë: "add special or extra loot for those that defeat it without the buffs titles maybe? a special mount? <<<something for them to still show off and brag about ...." I like the title idea. Also u could make it so the buff makes it so u cant get all of those achieves required for the titles.
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Anastarian
Korgath
Anastarian
2/1/2012
@Coffinbringr: I just have to call BS on doing 8/8 reg in less time than 4/8 LFR. If you one shot everything in both to keep a constant experiment, there is no way that is possible, even including waiting for loot timer to time out on all 4 LFR bosses.
Exaggerating to make a point makes the point, pointless.
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Dirkdglr
Trollbane
Dirkdglr
2/1/2012
I have a truck load of QQ if anyone would like some more?!I gathered what leaked out of this forum and put it in a cattle watering tank on the back of my truck so feel free to stop on by and grab some!
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Lamina
Area 52
Lamina
2/1/2012
All I gotta say is Blizz go back to Old school wow 40man raids where you would lose your place if you didnt do your job and I dont know about other servers but on mine there was 5 guilds able to do Naxx when it came out and I was proud at the time to beable to go in and beable to do bosses and watch people still strugle with Molten Core.
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Linddoris
Muradin
Linddoris
2/1/2012
@Lamina: It's a game not a JOB ..If you want to be a boss of something then start a business...I hate being in guilds but feel forced to be in one now with this new system..
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Centarii
Wyrmrest Accord
Centarii
2/2/2012
@Linddoris: If there was content out there that was more difficult AND current then DS... I think there would be a lot less QQing, definitely from me anyway. But in gaming culture there are those who like to Game Seriously, not a Job mind you but a serious attitude towards what they call fun. Counter-Strike was like this, had casuals, and had hardcores that knew everything; Same thing for me when I played MLG for Halo 2.

I know I like to take great pride (not as if there are things not on screen that i don't take the same or more pride from) from completing hard accomplishments in raiding or stats (WoL) and would feel more satisfied if per example... I pugged a Heroic Morchok kill after two trys... that just lessens my accomplishment to me by ten fold compared to ramming my head against Black Temples Illidan fight for weeks until my guild finally downs him. It is just amazing after that and to know that not everyone can get the chance to do it.

Instead, WoW has turned into a campaign of sorts to make sure everyone can do it. Fun though now there is no real large gain of accomplishment - that is a big loss in fun which is what most gamers in WoW face I think.
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Killerkrill
Dethecus
Killerkrill
2/1/2012
I like all the sarcasm in this thread.
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Mickr
Nagrand
Mickr
2/1/2012
Blizzard I congratulate you on learning from the past and balancing the nerfs/buffs of players/bosses. Personally LFR is a great addition despite the faceroll, I believe cross realm raiding should be normalised to the same loot and standard as normal raids. I find it very hard to find guild and pugs running raids at the right progression to suit me...cross realm would help all players.
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turn off the buff if you want it to be more challenging... and simply be proud of the fact that you were able to down content w/o it.... blizz nerfs everything eventually, this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone -_-'. stop crying about it.
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Poena
Azjol-Nerub
Poena
2/1/2012
@Kyà: YOU CAN NOT TURN THE BUFF OFF UNLESS YOU ARE 8/8 HEROIC. DOING SO PREVENTS YOU FROM BEING COMPETITIVE AND THEREFOR CONTINUING RECRUITMENT.
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Tetraxion
Medivh
Tetraxion
2/1/2012
@Kyà: i agree. Totally.
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Ariaen
Dragonblight
Ariaen
2/1/2012
Yeah I noticed that too
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Woreen
Gilneas
Woreen
2/1/2012
I hate to say it, but it's hilarious to see how immature some players are. All this QQing from so called "hardcore" players over a nerf that can be turned off. Are you people really so pathetic that you think Blizzard runs this game for you alone?

I've purposefully avoided current raids for the simple reason that I just don't want to deal with the blatant attitude that you "hardcore" people have. It's just a game! Get over yourself. The investment provided by hardcore players is no more valuable to Blizzard than the investment provided by the casual players.
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Poena
Azjol-Nerub
Poena
2/1/2012
@Woreen: YOU CAN NOT TURN THE BUFF OFF UNLESS YOU ARE 8/8 HEROIC. DOING SO PREVENTS YOU FROM BEING COMPETITIVE AND THEREFOR CONTINUING RECRUITMENT.

P.S. We raid 7.5 hours a week and do not require attendance. The only thing we do require is that you do not suck. That being said we do not want the nerf and we cannot turn it off if we want to be able to continue recruitment.
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Cautarize
The Forgotten Coast
Cautarize
2/1/2012
@Woreen: lol my "hardcore" raid group makes sex jokes and jump off the wyrmrest temple most off the time. What does your "hardcore" raid group do?
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Centarii
Wyrmrest Accord
Centarii
2/2/2012
@Gharosh: Open yourself a new can of Trolle-Os because the one you are using, got rotten and nasty :)
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Centarii
Wyrmrest Accord
Centarii
2/2/2012
@Woreen: Meh, you forget how hard WoW use to be and most of the QQer's are the ones who miss the old days of the game; obviously they will be immature about something they have been paying for since 2006 or what ever ( im not bothering to look up the opening date, im lazy)...

Perhaps when dealing with their attitudes you can best understand them, Anthropology ftw.
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Omnombear
Uldum
Omnombear
2/1/2012
If you don't like the things that are done don't just yell at blizz about it, do soemthing. Implement new changes.

When I heard rogues were getting their own questline to get legendary daggers I though "well hell, they finally gave rogues something nice for a change after all the nerfs and constant ups and downs they've had over the years"

Now, I think for everyone but rogues, there should be new questlines for their own class-specific legendary items that combine raiding skills, solo and group questing skills (and quite possibly some pvp skills) to acquire the legendary weapon. This way it will show that you know somewhat how your class works in different situations and to be able to show off your playstyle skills a bit.

If you feel that setting up a skill guage for the quest and dumbing down the ilvl and stats on the quest is a good idea to accurately guage the skill of the player, then do so, but I would like to see some new art and new proc concepts. Ty for firecats, but I'm sad that the weapon is out-of-date now after trying so long to get it :*P
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Warkingthe
Nagrand
Warkingthe
2/1/2012
Y make it easyer for casual scrubs
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Hornietroll
Arathor
Hornietroll
2/1/2012
@Warkingthe: Because the total sum of all the "casual scrubs" monthly investment into the company will make you pee your pants. "Casual Scrubs" pay Blizzard employee's bills. You can add all the tears from the QQ-ing here and you could not sell it for a dollar to camel in the desert. BTW, I'm a "casual scrub" that turns off the buff.