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i would just take hours and hours to do

Maybe the raid should have a mega, ultra hard mode. You know, everything in every mob has like 500 million health and the bosses have over a billion health. Basically, make it so hard that the ones whining about the nerf start whining and begging for a nerf.

Imo, I don't see any hurt in dumbing it down. It really does make it easier for the more casual players to play. HOWEVER, I DO think that you should only get achievements/titles if you choose NOT to use the 10% spell.

Quit watering down the content for the whining loosers who cant cope. They don't deserve to down the boss if they don't have the brain cells and the skills to deal with the mechanics of the fight. The excuse of "I pay my sucscription too" doesn't cut it when they castrate this game.....

Being a rogue myself, I have been looking for the pickpocket for hargara for over 2 weeks... my realm is a small realm, so it is hard to get a raid in with my own realm. Raid Finder is so much easier, but i can not pickpocket the necromancer ring from hargara in raid finder. What blizz should do for the sake of all rogues is let the loot from hargara be able to be looted from raid finder.

They do It's called Clear the damn Content in the alotted time and stop QQ. Of course Blizzard will make content easier for the semi-hardcore/casuals.

Ohelpme is 1000% right this is an on-going problem that needs to be processed and you are letting it slide. i do these every week and watch things get taken ive have everything from a lvl 1 to a lvl 85 steal crap from me. if u made this so we could experience all in game action make it worth the 3 hours to do it.

This is becoming a game that preschoolers can play and down end game content. No longer are the days of the elite players having their victories reconised since now everyone can kill everything.

Blizzard!! It really would be GREAT if you it made so if there wearing it or have the item in their bank or on them they cannot get it again!!!
Do you know how many times I have examined people to see what they need and watch them change gear to a lower level item!!!! How the heck can anyone get pieces when they do that! The other night a Druid won Staff in Death Wing and he was already wearing the dam thing!!! He said it was for his Bro - This is Bull##%#^%*^
I have seen so much of it makes me sick! You can do a hell of of lot with this game so make some changes there PLEASE!!!!!!!
You know people are basically Selfish, Rude and Ignorant make the change

@ Jeebus well as far as the next expansion it will all be the same as you see now. It will start with no nerfs then blizz gets complaints about it being to hard so they will nerf it. Its simple really and involves 2 things really, 1 peeps dont know how to play there toons to get the max out of it. 2 groups dont know how to work together to down the content, so therfore its not there fault its blizz's fault cause its to hard. If peeps really wanted to learn there toons they would get off there butts in Stormwind and work on there toons, but thats to hard most want it the easy way. There was a time in the game where when you killed a boss it was awesome, there was no nerf every 3 weeks, back when you had to do one raid to get to the next. Back when gear really ment something and what ya had to do to get it, now just run some heroics and ya have raid gear...lmao....but it is what it is. If 70%of the people that play the game wanted it hard it would be, but 70% want it easy whice is why you see content the way it is. And all this talk about play time is bs, we all have lives the difference between those who complain about hard content and those who dont is simple. Those who complain cant down content the way it was ment to be, because there group is fail, try taking a better look at you group and what the real problem is. Its not the content, so please get a clue get better at your toon and try working together as a group. and if ya have a weakness in the group replace the weakness until they show they can carry there own weight and not be carried. Thats how you down content by having the right group in the raid to start with. There are so many people out there being held back cause there friends in the game are not up to par, so they stick with them. Thats all good and all, but really who pays your account, your friends or you. Its clear they are not ready for the content that you are, find a group that you can go with and when your friends are ready you can raid with them. But either way you pay for your account do as you wish, but dont complain about content because of the choices you make.

@ akirus...well just goes to show ya who the tard is...when it comes to LFR group the spec you are in is the spec you roll on, it would be very easy for blizz to add that so you cant win the same item again while in the same spec. If ya have more then one spec then play that spec and you will be able to roll on loot for that spec..

I was really surprised to see Dragon Soul as easy as it was. After playing around in Firelands before the Nerf defeating a boss made us all yell in vent with excitement. That is a major change from what happens now. If we dont defeat a DS boss in 1 shot people yell in vent that its to easy not to kill. Hard Modes are something that people spend weeks on and down little but achieve a lot of hype and benefit I find the Nerf here on DS to be to easy where to many people are killing everything in an hour 1 night a week. and HardModes most are 4/8 without to much work. I hope that next expansion will offer a difficulty not to hard but as well not to easy. I dont want to be on boss 1 for weeks and weeks but not on the last one in a few weeks either

are they trying to make it the same difficulty as the raid finder?

I think the problem some people may have with this is that completing Dragon Soul does not feel like as much of an accomplishment if this option is even allowed. If there isn't yet, there should be an achievement and a guild achievement for completing DS without the more powerful "Power of the Aspects" and, maybe, better rewards.

only people that have a problem with it being easier are the elitists who don't want people with lesser skill/ organization/ available time, to be able to accomplish what they did w/o they same amount of difficulty as when they did it. The people who just want it to not get any easier can turn off the buff and those who do want to easier can leave it on.

its very amusing how there is positive and negative feedback on this nerf that will constantly happen i guess some people forgot the whole wrath of lich king expansion when lich king raid was open. i am asuming this because im asuming ppl forgot how in lich king kill raid you got a buff wrather then nerf of the enemies it was buff to players. so complain cry throw your little gamer tantrums but you shoud have already forseen this coming. Me posting this wont change ur attitude because little QQ people do this every time anything comes out like MoP ppl raged PANDAS GOTTA QUIT WOW!!! but only like 10% did lol the others rage and no they wont quit wow

I dont think you even read my post. I didnt even mention difficulty of encounters, or call people who raid hardcore people without lives. I simply stated that forming a raid group on my server isnt the same as it is on a high population server, and its far worse to create a guild doing so. Your solution of just recruit raiders isnt very helpful to the problems i was pointing out. The raid finder helps very low population servers with that, on the other hand being someone whos raided since MC in vanilla, of course many aspects of the game have been too dumbed down.

Using "I have a life and don't have the time to learn boss mechanics and raid all day." is no longer a valid excuse. There are raid leaders /GMs who have children & jobs, but they're still able to fit 3-6 hours per week to put content on farm. If you know you have little time to play then you should be making the best of it, not bull!@#$ting in Stormwind doing nothing. The problem with people today is they have this illusion that in order to be successful in said task you must commit yourself 24/7. More often than not these people you label as "elitists" have less time than you and have careers outside the game, but the difference is they know how to manage their time.

lol ade

god miss raiding, but i have a horrible diseases call a job and life afraid there no cure ! lol

Guy beneath me isn't even considering multiple specs. He's full retard.

the one thing blizz really needs to do in lfr is make it where if you win a tier piece you may not win that same tier piece again, or any item you have won in the past. I for one dont need the gear from LFR my groups clear DS weekly so the gear will come, but those who need LFR do need the gear. Atleast make it fair to all in the raid to get some gear instead of letting who ever can roll for it roll on it and pass it to a friend.

@ Octaivia that will never happen because most will complain about not being able to get those achieves

Seriously, I thought RF was reserved for those who wanted to see the content but aren't competant enough to do an actual run. If you're going to nerf this already ridiculously easy raid, throw out achieves for those who do the content unnerfed.

@ Sacraficed why is it that you feel that others should help another player out when it comes to playing there toon?. What happen to lvl your toon learn what it can and cant do, practice your rotations, have proper gems and chants. One of the problems in wow today is new players, we were all there at one point. But the difference is the older player is willing to put the time in to learn there toon, they didnt expect someone to teach them everything. Thats the way it is now, peeps lvl a toon and expect someone to teach them there toon. What ever time you have to play the game is the time you have, instead of being carried through content learn your toon and rotations and carry your own weight. Learn your toon ( practice on a dummy not in a raid) when you have it down get in a raid. But thats the hard way, you want it given to you. But its all good, I thought blizz came out with LFR for a reason, now its the same ole bs...peeps complain they cant have the same loot as a raider does. So what happens?...they nerf content so the ones that want it handed to them can get it too, working up to it is a thing of the past and will never come back.

As a raid leader, and a fairly hardcore raider, i raid almost all content on my 10 lvl 85's on my server(5 with DW kills) and alot of those coming before the nerf, i would have to say that i was unimpressed with the level of difficulty with normal mode deathwing, blackhorn was a much more difficult encounter than deathwing imo, also there is a lot of QQing about not being able to raid something, if you want to raid go to a raiding guild or form your own, i have multiple raid teams on both factions 1 being semi hardcore, and the rest kind of a casual thing, if you want to experience heroic ds you should have to go for a guild to do it or blizzard should bring back higher item level for 25 mans and leave them for serious raiders and leave the 10 mans for the people who want to pug the heroic stuff, i like killing hard stuff for the fact that its hard and not everyone can do it. if any one who doesnt put in time to play thier class well can be able to do the bosses and so forth that i have done or will do i will most definitely quit this game and go to something more challenging.