5.2 Currency Conversions - Updated

5.2 Currency Conversions - Updated

Patch 5.2 introduces a new raid tier and PvP season, and so the higher tier currencies will be down-converted during maintenance. This time around there won’t be a soft cap, old Valor items aren’t changing to cost Justice, and we’re adding a new rank of PvP gear. Let’s break down exactly how it’s all going to harmoniously work together.

PvE

Valor -> Justice

All Valor is converted to Justice

Justice -> Gold

Justice above the 4000 cap is converted to gold at a rate of 47 silver per point

So let’s say the realms go down for the 5.2 patch and you have 450 Valor and 3800 Justice. Because of the 4000 Justice cap, you’d log back in after the patch is released with 0 Valor, 4000 Justice, and be 117 gold and 50 silver richer after the conversion.

With 5.2 we won’t be changing current Valor items to cost Justice, but they will be much cheaper (discounts from 50-75% off their current costs). You’ll need to acquire Valor after the patch is released to buy pieces for their discounted rate, or to buy the new 5.2 Valor items, but we’re also introducing new items to spend your Justice on, including heirlooms and Pet Battle stones.


Valor is no longer being converted to Justice with the release of 5.2. Find out more in the forum post announcing the change.

Charms
While Charms won’t be converted, Lesser Charms of Good Fortune will no longer be used to purchase Elder Charms in patch 5.2. Instead Lesser Charms will purchase Mogu Runes of Fate. They’ll be purchasable in the same way; once a week, 90 Lesser Charms can be converted to 3 Mogu Runes of Fate via a quest in your faction’s Shrine. Mogu Runes of Fate will be usable for bonus rolls on 5.2 raid and world bosses only. Elder Charms will continue to be used for bonus rolls on 5.0 raids and world bosses, and will now be acquired as item drops by killing enemies in the new 5.2 Thundering Isle outdoor zone.

 

PvP

Conquest -> Honor

All Conquest is converted to Honor

Honor -> Gold

Honor above the 4000 cap is converted to gold at a rate of 35 silver per point

For example, if I log out before the 5.2 maintenance period with 450 Conquest and 3800 Honor, my excess of 250 Honor would be converted, and so when I log in after 5.2 is released I would have 0 Conquest, 4000 Honor, and be 87 gold and 50 silver richer.

In 5.2 we’re introducing an entirely new tier of PvP gear that will be purchasable with Honor to help smooth out the gearing progression for new and returning players, alts, etc. so they can catch up and be a bit more successful coming in mid-season or even mid-expansion. You can read more about all the changes being made surrounding that in the PvP Gear blog we posted a few weeks back.

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Scrutiny
Burning Legion
Scrutiny
2/10/2013
@Lannielas: Could you facepalm harder with that wall of text please!
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Sabø
Tichondrius
Sabø
2/10/2013
@Lannielas: Dude I Love u
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Dreededmage
Doomhammer
Dreededmage
2/10/2013
@Lannielas: so true it is so easy now to get gear you had to work for it back in the day and you had fun doing it cause it ment something so stop you crying you all got it easy now
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Soulfaith
Burning Blade
Soulfaith
2/11/2013
@Lannielas: Nice
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Deathgirl
Deathwing
Deathgirl
2/11/2013
@Lannielas: Yea, sometimes I wish I have a chance to taste the Vanilla, so I can understand what true players did to get those gears or 40-man raid which sounds like it's fun. Unfortunately, I come into the World of WarCraft at same time BC was being released. Talk about rotten timing...
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Deyoso
Blackrock
Deyoso
2/11/2013
@Lannielas: i wasnt aware being leveling 40 meant you were in the top 100
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Palalized
Dragonblight
Palalized
2/11/2013
@Lannielas: So right I remember those hard days grinds 40 mans praying that one piece would drop then it would'nt sooo you go back next week, now theres no challenge no work its easy. I get made fun of because I dont raid and do achievements now at least there is some degree of difficulty.
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Sylias
Earthen Ring
Sylias
2/11/2013
@Lannielas: While I am found of the memories of the old WoW getting Benediction, clearing old Naxx and go 7/8 T2 (no one wanted to do MC >_<) I have grown up playing this game. I am ok with what Blizzard has done I do agree with you that fro people to cry about this stuff being hard or not fair to lose valor is pointless.

Now that I have kids, and real job I love that I can jump into a LFR face roll bosses. Id love to do heroic modes but I don’t have the time for that anymore. Game is much more fun to me now, when BC first dropped and I was trying to do all that attunement crap getting keys for heroics. I had to give up it was too time consuming my guild blew me away I couldn’t raid. At least the current state allows me to enjoy the game.

I am sure there are a lot of people with my mind set too. Don’t get me wrong I love accomplishing stuff that is really hard and having bragging rights.

But these younglings they don’t understand what hard is lol. You can get 2k valor in 2 weeks time with minimal effort. Just do all the LFR’s and a daily scenario and random heroic. You would have that all done in maybe 8 hours time per week.

My only gripe is valor cap I don’t get a real life money cap.
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Xänthieda
Arthas
Xänthieda
2/11/2013
@Lannielas:
You sound like an old man. "Things were better back when things were worse!" I understand nostalgia and enjoying a challenge, but you can't tell me that you've played ALL of the expansion so far, hated every bit of it as hard as you could, and still want to play.

Calm down and either just play your game or cancel your subscription if it is causing you THAT much distress. Yeah, things used to be more difficult, but if you want a challenge, gear up and try to solo things. Don't run normal dungeons and whine about how it's not difficult enough and how you don't need heroic mode because they didn't have it in vanilla.
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Kmcintire
Wyrmrest Accord
Kmcintire
2/11/2013
@Lannielas: I have been around since Llane got his heart cut out by Garona. People like you make me laugh so freaking hard, and to be very honest it makes me sick to listen to you and others say this stupid crap. People like you back in Vanilla were the same ones screaming "Blizz this is rediculous we can't get anywhere waw awawawawaawawawawaa." Now we fast forward to today and all the folks like you are screaming, "Back in Vanillla this was unacceptable, bring back Vanilla WoW, wawawawawawawawawawawa."

News flash this game isn't about us old timers, they do not care how long you have been playing. What they are worried about is keeping the game alive, and if that means saying good bye to folks like me and you that have been here for years, then so be it. If it has gotten so bad then YOU gtfo, yes YOU. But you won't, you will continue to complain like a 90 year old man about the "back n my days bull!@#$." If they made it that way again I can almost garuntee you would be the first person on here saying something stupid like "I thought we were over this and never had to deal with this kind of a grind again!"

Please stop letting stupid stuff like this come from your fingers. You really wanna go back to the vanilla days? I and everyone else knows better then that. So save us from this false sense of being better then the newer players, or newer players are not allowed to play WoW, or that they should have to go through the same pain me and you went through just to be able to get into BWL. Have a nice day, and stop your crying, how are you any better than anyone else when you are doing the same thing, you're just whining about the opposite.
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Sparkolin
Suramar
Sparkolin
2/11/2013
@Lannielas: just one word...cookie cutter ( oh wait that's 2..LOL), they have made WoW to "kid-friendly" IMO. I am only a casual player but I have been playing since vanilla came out in '04. I remember how hard it was, you had to work for what you got, and every toon was different. Now it feels like the only difference in the classes is the way they look when casting spells, etc., because people complained that this class or that were to OP. So now we are all equal and the game has suffered for it.
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Kirinis
Frostwolf
Kirinis
2/12/2013
@Lannielas: Just so you all know, I'm not trying to sound like I know what I'm talking about since I picked up this game during cata, however, I do agree that I've seen a major decline in the game from when I did pick it up. I do agree that people are complaining too much about this. Yes, it's really not fair to do this and not even say when the patch is coming out to give people the time and chance to decide if they want to spend or save their conquest and valor. What Blizzard really needs to do is to step back, stop making so many patches so quickly, and take the best parts of the past patches and THEN make another one and leave it like that. After they "fix" the game, they should simply add minor details to the patches after that while keeping the "balance" they claim they want. Despite all the patches and expansions that have come out since vanilla, this game could have kept the challenge of working the players asses off to get gear in other ways of just making more currency and then putting a cap to it.
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Deathbreaker
Mok'Nathal
Deathbreaker
2/10/2013
Does anyone else have to do Ctrl + A to change the text and background so they can read it and not get blurry vision?
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Kreamykylei
Hakkar
Kreamykylei
2/10/2013
when can we convert justice to valor for example 2=justice for one valor pionts so if you have 3,000 justice pionts converted to valor you get 1500 valor that would be nice
because right now i have alot of justice nothin to spend on
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Phuknorris
Stormrage
Phuknorris
2/10/2013
@Kreamykylei: use that jp to upgrade those blues.
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Albri
Whisperwind
Albri
2/10/2013
@Phuknorris: the upgrader is being taken out durring this next patch
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Sharhea
Bloodhoof
Sharhea
2/11/2013
@Albri: He also said that he head a lot of justice right now and nothing to spend it on. Upgrading blues before it goes away would work to spend his current Justice points.
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Kaigore
Bleeding Hollow
Kaigore
2/10/2013
I may be confused but that math doesn't sound right

"Honor above the 4000 cap is converted to gold at a rate of 35 silver per point For example, if I log out before the 5.2 maintenance period with 450 Conquest and 3800 Honor, my excess of 250 Honor would be converted, and so when I log in after 5.2 is released I would have 0 Conquest, 4000 Honor, and be 87 gold and 50 silver richer."
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Mewz
Galakrond
Mewz
2/10/2013
I think blizzard might be out of touch with just how much things cost, 47s a point?

I might be able to afford water with that after the conversion.
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Scrutiny
Burning Legion
Scrutiny
2/10/2013
@Mewz: I agree with you on that. They are out of touch with the gold inflation. I'd say a minimum of 70 silver per.
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Kmcintire
Wyrmrest Accord
Kmcintire
2/11/2013
@Mewz: Almost as bad as congress.
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Justashadow
Archimonde
Justashadow
2/10/2013
The major difference isnt that there is going to be a large supply of new gear open up for your vp to spend on to begain with just a neck piece that requires no rep to get.... but you also need to take into account that you "only get rep from boss kills in the new raid." So by the looks of it they are dumping all the vp just cause they dont want the 5% of the wow population that burns threw the content as they did this xp to have a harder time so 95% of the population needs to deal with it. Even though it still seems like over kill due to the rep gains are from boss kills only... but that also depends on how much rep per kill cause u might not even be able to hit friendly in the first week : /.
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Seventhwinds
Khadgar
Seventhwinds
2/10/2013
@Justashadow:

Yep three guilds on my server are already done with wow until the next content patch.
They keep trade trolling saying this gameis easy mode wish there was a new expansion already...
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Gambino
Tichondrius
Gambino
2/10/2013
why are you guys !@#$%ing? this has how it has always been.
Get over it
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Glassex
Kel'Thuzad
Glassex
2/10/2013
@Gambino: Why sir are you !@#$%ing about people ^-*!@ing in a forum designed for #$%^-ing?
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Kmcintire
Wyrmrest Accord
Kmcintire
2/11/2013
@Gambino: Wrong, last tier always became purchaseable with the lower currency, not at a discounted more valuable currency price.

But you are right, you know, everyone has always had to put more work into their alts then their mains. : /
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Packit
Dalaran
Packit
2/10/2013
i agree with mostly every thing that has been said,as well as loseing a boat load of clients,they need to fix loot drops first and formost in rf,i stoped doing them after i got my fifth pc of teir armor which consisted of 5 pairs of gloves wheres the rest of the set?
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Fuzybottom
Trollbane
Fuzybottom
2/10/2013
If I understand this, I am getting penalized for trying to gear all my toons rather than waiting a few patches to get discounted gear. JP gear is worthless and I don't PVP so I going to have a bunch of JP points I won't ever use. Thanks Blizz
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Solstíce
Runetotem
Solstíce
2/10/2013
@Fuzybottom: Stop complaining, this is literally how it has always been. The point of it is so that there is actually variety in the game.

Basically, there will be an entirely new bracket of gear. You aren't being punished, you are being opened up to a new set of gear. So calm down.

You make it sound like they are doing this to you personally, but just realize this is happening to everybody, and it always has/always will be.
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Solstíce
Runetotem
Solstíce
2/10/2013
@Fuzybottom: oh and on top of that, i notice your gear is terrible. You should be happy about this conversion, it gives you an opportunity to stop complaining on forums all day and replace your headless horseman gear / blues
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Hypérion
Bladefist
Hypérion
2/10/2013
@Fuzybottom: Like Solstice says, it has always been this way, and elder players like me agree with it due too the fact.... hm an Example. Lets say they let the Top pvpers keep all their Arena points, about 5000-6000 points in the new season. When it starts they can go in and just buy their Arena gear right away with points? NO that is wrong so they want it too be... You start fresh in each season/Tier Armor RAID and PVP so i agree with blizz about this.
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Guidinglight
Blackhand
Guidinglight
2/10/2013
I agree with all that is said here. To convert all the points into worthless JP and not dropping the current VP gear into the JP column is just wrong. To make JP gear worth it Blizz should make it between Ilvls 363-375 not below heroic gear Ilvls.
Also I agree with everyone else about the not making current VP gear into JP gear is a really stupid move. It is what has been done since WOTLK and if you make 2 pieces of gear, 1 higher Ilvl and 1 lower Ilvl, the same price VP wise then why would anyone choose the lover Ilvl one. I think Blizz needs to get a better marketing and development strategy here or they will lose a boat load of clients.
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Runnerchi
Aerie Peak
Runnerchi
2/10/2013
I am most concerned about this:

"With 5.2 we won’t be changing current Valor items to cost Justice, but they will be much cheaper (discounts from 50-75% off their current costs). You’ll need to acquire Valor after the patch is released to buy pieces for their discounted rate, or to buy the new 5.2 Valor items, but we’re also introducing new items to spend your Justice on, including heirlooms and Pet Battle stones."

This is not good. With all previous patches you have turned previous Valour gear into Justice gear. I never actually used ANY Justice points except to upgrade my gear this expansion, as I received all of my blue gear in heroics. I

It seems that Justice points have become completely useless in Mists.
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Runnerchi
Aerie Peak
Runnerchi
2/10/2013
Just to add to this, I also got better gear in Scenarios as well as heroics than I ever got from the JP vendors.
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Subterranean
Dentarg
Subterranean
2/10/2013
Everyone calm down, they do this every new raid patch. They are not doing away with currencies, they are taking your current valor and your current conquest and crushing them into their smaller counterparts and the excess will be converted to gold. However you will still be able to get valor and conquest come the new patch. They do this every major raid patch to prevent people from being able to farm cap on conquest and valor and get best gear in bulk as soon as the new vendors up.
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Dozuki
Gorefiend
Dozuki
2/10/2013
@Subterranean: ITS DIFFERNT THIS TIME!....All the Valor Pts that i busted mt butt for on my alts will be WIPED. all That work= friggin waste of time!....
"The Difference this time is that the prior VP gear was now purchased with JP, so the prior VP converting to JP meant the same gear was available to be purchased after the conversion.This time around, the VP is gone but the gear hasn't been downgraded to JP. That isn't the same as every other tier patch"""....
VP gear will cost less...Great!...Blizz could have easily reduced your current VP's proportionally, relative to the new reduced rate, and not alienate all those poor peeps that dont survey the forums. I had enough...my toons are packed up im done for good this time. Perhaps things will improve.... but it seems like Mists is turning into, botched, mis-managed, poorly planned mess.
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Healzaregood
Daggerspine
Healzaregood
2/10/2013
That would be really cool to be able to transfer Conquest to Valor points, When you get max level you "tend" to get Conquest for every Wining game in Random or Holiday Battlegrounds.
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Jailir
Garona
Jailir
2/9/2013
Hmm, like the idea of conversions, not sure about the rates though :P
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Thorgaard
Kirin Tor
Thorgaard
2/9/2013
First things first- how about making it possible to grind JP. It is WAY easier to get Valor than it is to get Justice currently... that makes no sense.
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Bahnshee
Sisters of Elune
Bahnshee
2/9/2013
@Thorgaard: Except for transmog - why do you want JP? Serious question, since it's under heroic dungeon level gear (458), pet battle stones, and heirloom use only pretty much? I'm just missing what makes JP an attractive currency to want to grind for...