Preparing to Kill a King - Updated

Preparing to Kill a King - Updated

With 5.2 fast approaching I’ve been wanting to get my thoughts together on how I should be playing in the last couple weeks before the patch. Are there any reps I should catch up on; do I need to worry about spending currencies or upgrading items; and just in general what do I need to start doing now to maximize my play time before and after the patch releases? This isn’t going to be earth shattering info to anyone who has been following closely, but hopefully it’s a helpful reference.

So, It’s Like a Seat of Sound?
It’s probably most appropriate to start by talking about the new raid, the Throne of Thunder, as entering and clearing it is the goal for PvE progression. The raid is located on a new island, which can be reached by using a portal found in your faction’s Shado-pan camp on the west coast of Townlong Steppes. When 5.2 releases you’ll automatically receive a quest that will get you there, so no need to write that one down.

As the 5.2 raid Throne of Thunder is one continuous, sprawling dungeon, each difficulty will open in its entirety once unlocked. Normal difficulty will be available the first week, then Heroic the week after. LFR will, as usual, be broken up into sub-sections and those will be releasing over time, likely with the first section opening with Heroic in the second week, and a new section each week afterward. Of course we don’t tend to give out patch release dates ahead of time, because things can slip, but right now we’re targeting the last week of February.

To get into the LFR difficulty of Throne of Thunder you’ll need an item level of 480. A quick way to find your item level is to search for your character in the upper right search bar of WorldofWarcraft.com. Your item level is a big number in the upper right of your character’s profile. You can also see it in-game by expanding the advanced character stats.


The new LFR will require an average ilvl of 480, so get crackin'!

If you’re shy of 480 you’ve got some gearing up to do. There are a few different methods of finding and targeting upgrades. The in-game Dungeon Journal can filter by class and spec, showing you what each boss drops that’s good for you, and is actually a pretty easy and straightforward way to create a shopping list. The one downside is you’re not going to have lists of Valor-purchasable items with the Dungeon Journal to compare against. Likely the most popular strategy is to use item database sites like Wowhead.com and look for specific items, and arrange by ilvl or source. They also have a “Find Upgrades” button when looking at an item, which can help provide a list of higher ilvl items in a nice format. Askmrrobot.com offers the same kind of upgrade list too. I’ve also recently been using their new Find Upgrades feature, which has a bunch of useful options. It’s a premium feature so they do charge for it, but it’s free for the first week or so. If nothing else it can be a good option to just help you clear that 480 hurdle.

Upgrade 'Em While You Got 'Em
Like prior raid tiers we’re down-converting Valor to Justice with the patch. This means any Valor you have before the patch will become Justice, and any Justice over the cap will be converted to gold. There is a difference this time in that current Valor items are not being changed to cost Justice, and instead their cost is just being reduced (25-50%). That means you’re not going to benefit by waiting for the down-conversion to pick up any current Valor items. You’re going to want to strategize spending Valor beforehand, if there’s anything you want to buy with Justice (and there’s new Justice-bought heirlooms coming in 5.2), or maybe even if you want the gold. With both currencies at cap you could make around 1,400 gold with the conversion, so maybe that’s even a consideration. After the patch you’ll need to build Valor back up if you want any Valor items of course, but at a reduced cost it may be an option if you’re still looking to get over that 480 hurdle.

Personally I’m not really looking to pick up any Justice items, so my plan is to spend all of my Valor before the down-conversion, and the next section describes what I’m likely to spend the majority of it on.


Valor is no longer being converted to Justice with the release of 5.2. Find out more in the forum post announcing the change.

Later Space Mummy
Item upgrades won’t be available in 5.2, so getting those upgrades done before the patch hits is probably a good idea. Upgrades are likely coming back in 5.3 (at least for PvE), but spending the Valor now on upgrading pieces you don’t expect to replace quickly is pretty safe. Of course you could always get that lucky boss drop that completely demolishes your fully upgraded item, but those kinds of situations are par for the course.

This is one place where the Askmrrobot upgrade recommendation tool is pretty helpful for me. The rating on how best to spend Valor is quite useful. I’m over 480 so I’m personally just looking at spending Valor on upgrading my best items now.


Is that a mount!? Can it be a mount!? I want that to be a mount. GIMME DAT MOUNT

Be Less Charming Every Day
Throughout Mists of Pandaria we’ve all been working to collect Lesser Charms of Good Fortune. Once a week there’s a quest to exchange 90 Lesser Charms for 3 Elder Charms. The Elder Charms can then be used to get an additional chance at loot (bonus roll) from raid boss kills. In 5.2 the weekly quest to turn in the Lesser Charms changes, and will instead give you 3 Mogu Runes of Fate. The Mogu Runes of Fate can be used the same way, on bonus rolls, but only in the 5.2 Throne of Thunder raid and on the two new world bosses (Nalak and Oondasta). Elder Charms will still be available for the 5.0 raids, but they’ll instead be dropping from mobs in the new outdoor Thundering Isle zone.

There are a few different ways you can use this information depending on how well you’re geared, and how well geared you want to be before the patch. The new raid will require 480 item level for the LFR, and so if you’re at or above 480 you’re probably wise to just hold on to your Lesser Charms. If not, those bonus rolls may well be the quickest way to getting into the Throne of Thunder.

Personally I’m hanging on to mine. I think spending some Valor is probably the wiser course for getting over the hurdle. I do plan to still be doing dailies in 5.2, but I have enough reps at Exalted now that I don’t expect I’ll be coming across enough Lesser Charms to be overburdened and not working through my stack each week.


I'll just come back when you look like you're in a better mood...

Ketchup
As I briefly mentioned in the Currency Conversion section, 5.0 Valor items are seeing their prices reduced by 50%, and those added with the 5.1 factions (Operation Shieldwall and Dominance Offensive) will see their prices cut by 25%. In addition, the chance to get drops in the 5.0 LFR raids is being greatly increased, including the chance to get an item when using an Elder Charm for a bonus roll. All of this means gearing up alts will be a bit quicker, and if you’re not at that 480 requirement yet it should be pretty fruitful to run those raids for a few more weeks to get you there.

Sounds Like Heavy Metal
This isn’t really anything you can prepare for, but I think it’s at least worth mentioning here. In the Throne of Thunder, the Normal and Heroic raid bosses have a chance to drop an item with a new Thunderforged designation. Thunderforged items are 6 item levels higher than their standard counterparts. Bonus rolls can award a Thunderforged item (again, only in Normal and Heroic), so probably the only thing to plan for ahead of time is having Lesser Charms ready and waiting to exchange for Mogu Runes of Fate.


♫Said if you want to call me baby, just go ahead now♫ (Two Princes, get it? Ugh just keep reading...)

On Doomed Azeroth, Black Prince Choose You
As we’re all aware, Wrathion, the Black Prince, using his voodoo crystal ball of Black Dragonflight future-sight has determined Azeroth is headed for (more?) doom and despair. To help solve this problem he wants to give you a Legendary item, but only after you’ve gone around terrorizing the world and killing a bunch of people. Fishy. Over the course of each patch he gives you some tasks for new toys, ultimately leading to your very own Legendary item in (presumably) patch 5.4.

This is where things get a bit tricky because, up until this point, everyone has been working to obtain their Sha-Touched weapons, the gem to put into it, and adding a prismatic slot. But in 5.2 the reward veers left, no Sha-touched weapons will drop in the new raid, and the new Wrathion reward is a Legendary meta gem, which leaves your Sha-touched weapon and gem to be replaced by what will certainly be more powerful weapons in the Throne of Thunder. You will still be able to apply the prismatic slot upgrade to 5.2 raid weapons, though.

Considering the prismatic slot is usable on 5.2 raid weapons, my recommendation would be to try to catch up if you haven’t yet, but balance it against other priorities. You’d be pretty lucky to get a weapon drop your first time into the new raid, and if you’re running LFR the raid is broken up into smaller sections which open one at a time each week. So if you have more pressing matters, this is one thing you can continue to work on even after 5.2 releases and probably not be too far behind.


Well at least they don't have robots full of blood. Nevermind.

It's Not a Tabard! (in your best Arnold voice)
In 5.2 you’ll be able to champion a Mists of Pandaria faction (except for Black Prince) by choosing a new option added to your reputation list (in the same list where you can show that rep as your XP bar). By championing a faction you can earn 750 reputation for the first Heroic dungeon each day, and 325 for the first Scenario. This allows you to augment (or avoid) daily quests with those factions to get to Exalted that much quicker.

In addition, if you have The Tillers at Exalted and all of your farm plots unlocked, you’ll be able to take on a work order each day from one of the various factions (except for Black Prince) which will reward you with additional rep.

The new reputation and quest hub in 5.2 is pretty cool; it unlocks and builds up via server progression a la Isle of Quel’danas. What will be a lot cooler for some of you though is that there are no Valor items associated with the rep. At least this time around, all the Valor items are tied to a raid reputation, which you can earn even through LFR. It will require boss kills though, so no ICC rep runs.

I know some people are already saying they’re going to stop doing dailies until then. I don’t know; I’m already playing more or less every day, doing a daily hub here and there isn’t going to break my time-bank, and I’m still going to be hitting Exalted quicker than if I was waiting. Up to you, but I’m hoping to have less and less 5.0 content to have to think about once 5.2 hits.

That'll Do, Tree
I think that about does it. You’ll of course want to look at mixing up food and elixirs, and gathering mats for crafted items. There’s also the new the world bosses, but that’s not content you really need to prepare for specifically, at least not to the same extent you need to gear up for a raid dungeon. It may be worth noting though that one of the world bosses, Oondasta, is intended to be crazy-difficult. If you’re not in an organized Heroic-level raid group and teaming up with other Heroic-level raid groups, you’re going to want to stick to the other world boss, Nalak; although, keep in mind Nalak unlocks with the island’s server progression, so it’s something to look forward to. Sha of Anger still has Tier-14 and Season-12 items, so that’s certainly something a lot of people will continue to hit up, and I expect it to stay pretty active even well into the new patch.

Let’s open it up to your comments! How are you planning and preparing for 5.2? Did I miss something? Any tips or tricks on how to maximize your time as you progress?

Thanks for reading, may all your bonus rolls be BiS, and I’ll see you in-game!


Micah “Bashiok” Whipple is a Community Manager for World of Warcraft and thinks you’re just the bees knees. It’s worth mentioning though that he’s deathly afraid of bees, as well as various types of pivotal hinges.

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Bazzukaa
Goldrinn
Bazzukaa
2/11/2013
There will be any promotions on MoP digital download price like the one of 70% off happening right now on eu.blizzard.com/store?
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Isïs
The Venture Co
Isïs
2/11/2013
once again LFR will ruin the raid and burn it out faster than you know. LFR is what is killing this game. there is no mystery to the raids, no secrets. nothing that leaves you with jaw open hitting the floor. all you will have is the same raid every week which will be burned out FAST. people who arent social love LFR because they can afk while they get free loot or sit back and watch the rest of the raid clear it while they alt tab to facebook. the other people who love it are the ones who dont have time to invest in the game and feel "left out" when they cant see end game content. so the rest of us suffer. so glad my sub ends this month. im not coming back
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Mirix
Icecrown
Mirix
2/11/2013
@Isïs: later
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Palaurus
Proudmoore
Palaurus
2/11/2013
@Isïs: LFR is on a rolling release. World First Heroic will be done before LFR is completely open. In fact, quite a lot of guilds will clear normal before LFR is fully open.
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Bearskinner
Tichondrius
Bearskinner
2/11/2013
@Isïs: Sounds like you've had some rough LFR exp. I've not ever been in a LFR where if DPS or HPS is low a "Vote to Kick" isn't up within seconds. People in LFR generally aren't lazy people, and generally don't like lazy people. I do LFR because I can raid in my own time frame, I have kids, a wife, and an on call job. Guild commitment isn't an option. I used to raid for "real" back in MC/BWL/AQ days, but babies happen lol!
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Sparrowhowk
Magtheridon
Sparrowhowk
2/11/2013
Is the BMAH getting new 5.2 items as possible listings as well?
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Nzete
Lightninghoof
Nzete
2/11/2013
Any chance of being able to turn in Elder Charms of Good Fortune for Lesser Charms of good fortune (perhaps at a loss) since they are going to be dropping in the world and only good for rolling out outdated content? I foresee raiders who care about reputations starting the patch with zero Elder Charm (planning on not needing them) and eventually getting them to the cap and sitting on them without spending any ever because these raiders aren't doing the older content where they are valid (and don't actually want drops from the older content if they do go there).

Also, will the first tier of raiding still drop valor points? If so, how much per boss? We have been trying to discuss whether fast clears of older content would be an easier way to get valor to cap instead of doing [insert very large number here] of dailies or running more of the trivial content than is needed for the guild challenge gold [dungeons/scenarios]. (We already have to deliberately make guild groups of people who didn't want to go there for any reason other than guild gold - low population server, we can't sell raid drops for repairs).
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Chistorm
Greymane
Chistorm
2/11/2013
@Nzete: Elder->Lesser would be nice even if we only got 45 back.
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Yago
Runetotem
Yago
2/11/2013
Top-notch, thanks for the post. I will be directing all of my guildies to this.
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Crutiln
Deathwing
Crutiln
2/11/2013
Whoever made this post, i think their hungry. Using "Ketchup" instead of "catch-up". :)
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Vindicare
Kel'Thuzad
Vindicare
2/11/2013
@Crutiln: It's a pulp fiction reference.
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Tokenblakguy
Hydraxis
Tokenblakguy
2/11/2013
So is this the 2 week warning post?
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Savario
Thaurissan
Savario
2/11/2013
@Tokenblckguy: Yep. Bashiok tweeted "I've jotted down a few notes on how to best spend these last two weeks preparing for the 5.2 patch:" and linked to this.
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Riggo
Illidan
Riggo
2/11/2013
@Tokenblckguy:

The pvp article will prob confirm it more.
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Palaurus
Proudmoore
Palaurus
2/11/2013
@Savario: I like the picture he tweeted better than the actual "announcement". https://twitter.com/Bashiok/status/301015894157578240
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Tyrathius
Wyrmrest Accord
Tyrathius
2/11/2013
Changing player's valor to justice while leaving all the valor items with a valor cost is still a terrible idea.
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Mezzivezz
Wyrmrest Accord
Mezzivezz
2/11/2013
@Tyrathius: It is, on top of confusing players YET AGAIN.
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Crowlight
Icecrown
Crowlight
2/11/2013
Thanks for droppin' science, Bash. ^_^
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Aldukin
Dark Iron
Aldukin
2/11/2013
Still waiting for Eyefinity DX11 support from 2011.
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Mirix
Icecrown
Mirix
2/11/2013
Feb 26th yall he said it!!!
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Ikonik
Bronzebeard
Ikonik
2/11/2013
The thing I'm hearing lately is that 5.2 raids are tuned for 502? is this true? If so does it mean that unless you are clearing 5.0 heroics you aren't going to be able to do regular mode 5.2? I'm probably wrong about this, but the dramatic increase in ilevel for lfr kind of confuses me
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Taurenturtle
Malorne
Taurenturtle
2/11/2013
can't wait !
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Jealnor
Stormrage
Jealnor
2/11/2013
Good stuff here.
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Taelen
Kil'jaeden
Taelen
2/11/2013
I like to pretend he used my armory page to demonstrate where to find your item level.
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Taurenturtle
Malorne
Taurenturtle
2/11/2013
@Taelen: lol looks like it! :P
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Belegan
Ghostlands
Belegan
2/11/2013
"In 5.2 you’ll be able to champion a Mists of Pandaria faction (except for Black Prince) by choosing a new option added to your reputation list (in the same list where you can show that rep as your XP bar)" - Does that include the Shado-Pan Assult?
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Fawnix
Kul Tiras
Fawnix
2/11/2013
@Belegan: No Assault is a raid rep only by killing bosses in ToT.
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Joosenjin
Cho'gall
Joosenjin
2/11/2013
Everything about this post is hedging a !@#$ty patch.

Everyone that cleared all of T14 heroic, gratz. You get a new raid and new world boss all to yourself.

Everyone else, have fun being stuck in T14 for a while. Oh, and we gave you more dailies since you all loved them so much in 5.0/5.1
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Shanush
Vashj
Shanush
2/11/2013
So glad they are allowing tabards, and I am totally fine that there's a limit on the rep allowed to be gained with them. Personally I'm behind on my main for gearing, so that, along with doing my dailies, will be huge in getting me geared for the next patch.

Thanks Blizz!
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Reinhilde
Proudmoore
Reinhilde
2/11/2013
Also, I think "CAN WE TAME THOSE? PWEASE!?!" would have been a better comment under the Direhorns. XD It's how we hunters always react to new beasts. Granted, yes, Direhorns are tameable, just saying. :P
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Vindus
The Venture Co
Vindus
2/11/2013
This is not a dog, that's a ferret!
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Fiddlesnarf
Azgalor
Fiddlesnarf
2/11/2013
Thanks Bashiok, this was a good read!
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Brewfist
Proudmoore
Brewfist
2/11/2013
If you're aiming for the last week of February, does that mean THIS post is the 2-week warning, with "If we need to hold off a week or two, we'll let you know?" As 2 weeks from tomorrow would be the last week of February.

Also, will current valor gear still be stupidly gated behind reputation? >_>
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Roarke
Wyrmrest Accord
Roarke
2/11/2013
Dude, Askmrrobot sucks. Gives you blatantly wrong reforging and gemming information.
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Brewfist
Proudmoore
Brewfist
2/11/2013
@Roarke: It's good for gear upgrades though. It RARELY (though sometimes) will be wrong when telling you which piece of gear is the biggest upgrade from valor, etc.
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Hyenastep
Wyrmrest Accord
Hyenastep
2/11/2013
@Roarke: This. Someone tried suggesting it to me in a raid once. I looked at it and laughed at all the wrong stats it was trying to put me in.
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Jakeurai
Emerald Dream
Jakeurai
2/11/2013
@Roarke: Sounds like you just aren't smart enough to use it properly.
You are like a guy driving a car fresh out of the factory complaining that the seat is uncomfortable, without ever adjusting the incline or height.
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Saadarth
Mal'Ganis
Saadarth
2/11/2013
@Roarke: As with all stat tools, you need to look at your character and determine stat weights that are appropriate. Mr.Robot offers you the ability to change stat weights and ignore certain pieces of gear, so that you can offload manually determining what to gem and reforge. It's a very intuitive tool if you take time to understand its functionality.
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Boomerang
Ravencrest
Boomerang
2/11/2013
@Hyenastep: Should we look at you and laugh for not seeing you can configure the stats any way you'd like? You don't have to use the default . . . it's just the default. Frankly if you read through how the stats were obtained and the insane amount of theorycrafting they do, you'd probably realize you should look a little harder at those stats.
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Demise
Frostwolf
Demise
2/11/2013
You know. I have no words for this. This is just perfect. I love what you're doing with the raids, rep changes, everything.

I'm an extreme altoholic, and I get random INCREDIBLE urges to play certain classes throughout the week. I like that your making "catchup" easier for old content, yet not making it so it's too easy to gear in the new raids.

I honestly dont see how anyone can complain about this, but knowing people, they'll find away.