5.4 and Shaman

90 Dwarf Shaman
9780
Is it just me or do Shaman healing seem a bit OP since patch?
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90 Pandaren Monk
15705
nowai
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
11980
That is impossible good sir.
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90 Blood Elf Mage
17275
About time.
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90 Troll Priest
9890
Blizzard takes turns making sure healing classes get a fair amount of time being opd!!

And yes, they are quite the healer right now. However bad shamans still say "oh we are ok but need a little help"
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90 Tauren Druid
14360
About time.
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Don't mind me. I'm just placing my 100k HPS puddle in the ground.

I feel the gap between 10m and 25m healing output is wider than before, though.
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90 Draenei Shaman
11550
A lot of the problem is tied up in HST. It's brainless throughput that you just drop on CD and it heals for millions. It's then multiplied by Rushing Streams. I suppose if they are just balancing for numbers though, the healers are all pretty close with Shamans leading the pack so nerfing HST without adjusting things like Glyph of Efflo is out of the question.

In the end it's the same as it has always been. Build a healing comp that works well together for your raid size and team and in 25s you might get an extra OP Shaman now instead of a Priest or Pally like last tier.
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90 Pandaren Shaman
15390
25 man a little, 10 man balanced.
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90 Goblin Shaman
18140
25 man a little, 10 man balanced.
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A lot of the problem is tied up in HST. It's brainless throughput that you just drop on CD and it heals for millions. It's then multiplied by Rushing Streams. I suppose if they are just balancing for numbers though, the healers are all pretty close with Shamans leading the pack so nerfing HST without adjusting things like Glyph of Efflo is out of the question.

I'd say that HST is hardly the main problem. The problem is having 30-40% of our throughput in Healing Rain alone. While HST with RST is pretty damn good, I'd look at moving our throughput away from HR first.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
11980
Which is sadly impossible this expansion.

Shamans are more or less fine but honestly the developers might do things quite a bit different in 6.0.
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90 Night Elf Druid
12410
09/23/2013 10:54 AMPosted by Stevecow
About time.


Thirded, but watch this thread peter out. No one wants to get into it since Shaman had a bad time up through this expansion. People say the class is owed "their time in the sun", which I'm fine with but not to this degree of crazyness.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
11980
Thirded, but watch this thread peter out. No one wants to get into it since Shaman had a bad time up through this expansion. People say the class is owed "their time in the sun", which I'm fine with but not to this degree of crazyness.


It's not even that line of discussion really. You just don't want your head getting bitten off.
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90 Pandaren Shaman
15390
but not to this degree of crazyness


Sorry i can't hear you over your glyph that puts out enormous healing at no cost.
Edited by Harpoa on 9/23/2013 12:42 PM PDT
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90 Night Elf Druid
12410
09/23/2013 12:37 PMPosted by Marathel
Thirded, but watch this thread peter out. No one wants to get into it since Shaman had a bad time up through this expansion. People say the class is owed "their time in the sun", which I'm fine with but not to this degree of crazyness.


It's not even that line of discussion really. You just don't want your head getting bitten off.


Lol no kidding! Just look at the other thread on efflo that almost capped. So much insults on gameplay and gearing! I kinda lost a little faith in the healing community's ability to calmly discuss a topic on balance.
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90 Tauren Druid
8380
Said glyph only heals 4 people and will only heal 3 people when we get tier 16 gear. Not saying it isn't very powerful but it will get cut by 33% soon.
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90 Night Elf Druid
12410
09/23/2013 12:41 PMPosted by Harpoa
but not to this degree of crazyness


Sorry i can't hear you over your glyph that puts out enormous healing at no cost.


It'll be fine if they make it baseline, put a haste cap on it, and take away the T15 set bonus.. heck put a mana cost on moving the shroom.. don't care.

So about fixing your healing rain? What would you do?
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90 Pandaren Priest
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everyone: "healing rain is op"
random shamans that never post in these forums: "no it's not ____ is"

there, i just summed up this thread

move a chunk of healing rain towards riptide and chain heal. next expac, remove all gtaoe heals
Edited by Truelite on 9/23/2013 12:51 PM PDT
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90 Pandaren Shaman
15390
So about fixing your healing rain? What would you do?


Get rid of it all together. It is a terrible mindless spell that is not fun and keeps the class in a stupid niche that no other class is bound to.
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