New EF Hotfix

90 Blood Elf Paladin
9725
Eternal Flame's heal-over-time effect is increased by 50% when used on the Paladin (down from 100%).

GG
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
20945
Because it was more broken than sacred shield ever was when used by tanks.
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100 Human Paladin
4325
Where is this? Does this apply to ret too? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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90 Tauren Paladin
12825
Saw that coming a mile away.
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90 Draenei Paladin
3625
And here I was just getting used to it.

/tosses hands into air

I'll just wait a week for the pros to let me know if it will still be better than SS or should I swap.
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100 Draenei Paladin
17945
I would imagine that given the 4p prot bonus, it should still be superior for prot due to the opportunity cost removal.
Granted, I'm too lazy to actually crunch the numbers.
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100 Human Paladin
24525
Thankfully I did my 30 waves in the PG before this. Can't see myself getting back there again now.

Guess I'll just back to SS, just because it makes the rotation less complicated.
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93 Dwarf Paladin
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09/23/2013 07:04 PMPosted by Halshar
I would imagine that given the 4p prot bonus, it should still be superior for prot due to the opportunity cost removal.


I'm leaning towards this, too; without 4pT16, EF and SS should be quite even.
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10 Blood Elf Paladin
10
Because it was more broken than sacred shield ever was when used by tanks.


well, back to the 30% nerfed SS it is...

what shall we break next? selfless healer? but that already sucks for prot. incoming "selfless healer requires 10 judgements to proc" hotfix.
Edited by Sanctifìed on 9/23/2013 8:40 PM PDT
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
10220
I am so sick of losing things because they're too broken for prot. Eternal Flame was moderately useful for staying alive in Arena for Ret. Guess I'll have to see how bad the hot is now, and if I have to switch back to Selfless Healer. Go go 30k instant FoL. -.-;
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
20615
Thanks prot
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
12740
Thanks prot
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
10220
After doing about a dozen arena matches this morning I can safely say the sky isn't falling. It was a noticeable drop, but wasn't nearly as bad as I first imagined. I didn't notice a real difference in the feel or effectiveness of Eternal Flame, but the hot is a little weaker.

I think I'm just a fan of the mechanic now more than anything. It feels like a half way point between Sacred Shield and Selfless Healer, with it's own strengths and weaknesses. I do enjoy having it tick constantly on myself and my partner. It might not have the BOOM feeling a 3 stacked Selfless Healer crit on your partner would, and it may cost holy power, but it provides a massive amount of healing over the course of an arena match and the sustained survivability is very noticeable.

But yeah;

Thanks prot


They really need to start balancing us separately. Ret hasn't been nerfed this entire expansion, but we eat blanket nerfs and nerfs intended for others specs constantly. It's like Ret is jumping in front of the nerf bat intentionally.
Edited by Andhar on 9/24/2013 6:49 AM PDT
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100 Tauren Paladin
8910
They really need to do their damned balancing and testing during PTR instead of buff then nerf. It's not like they don't have the numbers or ability to test it.

Stupidity like this (the obvious lack of proper internal testing) just makes me enraged.
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100 Human Paladin
10735
I forgot to try EF as ret but when I was doing Av weekend I was using it as prot in ret gear/sword and board and was tanking pretty much their whole team at their base, was extremely fun.
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90 Tauren Warrior
16345
I could swear they had a test realm to test things out before releasing them...I could be wrong though.
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100 Human Paladin
12295
Thankfully I did my 30 waves in the PG before this. Can't see myself getting back there again now.

Guess I'll just back to SS, just because it makes the rotation less complicated.


Me too, EF hot was basically the only thing keeping us alive in there. Even then it still required some sketchy tanking by the AI to get through it.
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100 Draenei Paladin
13650
My tooltip still says 100% ?
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100 Human Paladin
16290
Man lately its been Prot ruining everything for Holy, instead of the traditional other way around haha.
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100 Human Paladin
8845
Man lately its been Prot ruining everything for Holy, instead of the traditional other way around haha.


Oh the irony, how times change...
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