Conquest Cap & Gear Update

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Community Manager
Hello everyone,

As many of you are aware, there have been several hotfixes regarding PvP gearing over the past week. We wanted to take a moment to not only explain what exactly went wrong, but also what we’re going to do about it.

The problems started with an error in calculating the season "catch-up cap". As you may know, this cap is calculated on a weekly basis. Unfortunately, for some players, these calculations began before Season 14 had officially begun. So, when the season did start, those players essentially had an entire season’s worth of catch-up credit added onto their normal weekly cap of 2200.

As soon as we recognized the error, we despawned the Conquest vendors while we worked on and tested a hotfix to correct the artificially inflated Conquest caps (and remove extra Conquest that had been earned). We also created a hotfix that was intended to solve the initial error with the catch-up calculations during maintenance in other regions, but were unable to apply it before the issue had spread to other regions.

Once the hotfix to correct Conquest caps was completed, it was applied to all regions, and the Conquest vendors were respawned. At the time, we believed that the hotfix would take effect without realm restarts. That, unfortunately, did not turn out to be the case, so over the weekend, a number of players were able to acquire several pieces of gear that they should not have otherwise been able to. On top of that, a small number of players were able to earn the Grievous Conquest achievement, which then allowed them to purchase Conquest gear with Honor points.

We’ve since been working hard to correct our mistakes, and as of right now, here’s where we stand:

  • All players who had an inflated Conquest cap have had those caps corrected
  • The Grievous Conquest achievement vendors have been despawned temporarily, as no one should have access to them through normal play at this time
  • The Grievous Gladiator weapons have had their level requirement hotfixed to 91 temporarily, as no one should have access to them through normal play at this time

However, there is still the matter of the extra gear that some of these players were able to obtain. We need to remove this extra gear to maintain a level playing field for all of our players, but we also have to be extremely careful not to remove extra gear that players earned legitimately (as drops from world bosses, for example). To that end, here’s what we’re planning to do:

  • We’ve already begun manually investigating players with multiple pieces of Grievous Conquest gear, starting with the most abusive cases
  • For less abusive cases, we intend to apply a hotfix during the next maintenance period that should clean up any remaining extra gear
  • This hotfix will also remove the Grievous Conquest achievement from those who have earned it prematurely
  • In both cases, our plan is to convert excess Grievous gear into its Tyrannical equivalent, to ensure that no players are accidentally left without an item in a given slot

We are extremely sorry for the inconvenience this has caused, and are working around the clock to fix things as quickly and cleanly as possible. Thank you for your patience.
100 Pandaren Hunter
19915
I thank you guys for the honest, open insight.
100 Human Hunter
15635
Thanks Lore. I hope, for your sake, nobody here has a Master Ball.
100 Human Mage
20005
Hey look a blue post in the arena forums! Unfortunately unlike the European pvp forums you guys only post about system wide issues, its never about balance or proposed changes in PvP.
Yay!


Except the European pvp forums guys cant really discuss balance or proposed changes because there are no devs in Europe. They are probably acting as parrots for Holinka or Ghostcrawler probably mentioned on their twitter.
100 Human Warrior
6845
Hopefully those with full or near full sets actually get fixed. Lots of people running around with too much season 14 gear. 8 days before we get an update/explanation seems a bit long... but..If they actually get their gear removed, then this problem is fixed and it's all good in my book. Thanks for making it right...
Community Manager
09/25/2013 02:14 PMPosted by Grvîtyknîght
Hopefully those with full or near full sets actually get fixed. Lots of people running around with too much season 14 gear.


Many of those cases have actually already been resolved. We're working hard to get through all of them as quickly as possible.
10 Dwarf Paladin
80
Its my favorite Cinder kitty from battle creek!
90 Orc Monk
11035
Hey look a blue post in the arena forums! Unfortunately unlike the European pvp forums you guys only post about system wide issues, its never about balance or proposed changes in PvP.
Yay!


Except the European pvp forums guys cant really discuss balance or proposed changes because there are no devs in Europe. They are probably acting as parrots for Holinka or Ghostcrawler probably mentioned on their twitter.

Yeah you're probably right, the point I was trying to make is that we get hardly any blue interaction unless there's a game breaking mechanic
90 Undead Monk
7445
Thank you, Lore
90 Human Warlock
9800
Hey look a blue post in the arena forums! Unfortunately unlike the European pvp forums you guys only post about system wide issues, its never about balance or proposed changes in PvP.
Yay!


They've said plenty of times that balance posts will be made in the role forums, not in the specific class or arena forums.
90 Blood Elf Monk
14955
Awesome. Lets hope they're thorough.
100 Human Warrior
10945
Hi Lore, thanks for the update! I was just curious if you'd be allowed to give us the time new Grievous weapons will be usable (non level 91 requirement) or if your team is still decided when. Thanks!
100 Night Elf Druid
11600
Anything being done about their ratings in Arenas / RBG's?
90 Troll Shaman
9730
Anything being done about their ratings in Arenas / RBG's?


If the extra gear lead them to higher ratings I suppose they will fall back to where they should be post-fix.

I doubt blizzard will reset any pr's.
100 Human Warrior
10945
Anything being done about their ratings in Arenas / RBG's?


Not sure about arenas, but so many people cheat in RBG's as is that i doubt anything will be done in that department.
100 Blood Elf Paladin
Syk
12355


Except the European pvp forums guys cant really discuss balance or proposed changes because there are no devs in Europe. They are probably acting as parrots for Holinka or Ghostcrawler probably mentioned on their twitter.

Yeah you're probably right, the point I was trying to make is that we get hardly any blue interaction unless there's a game breaking mechanic


Yes, that is what tends to happen when the vast majority of a community's responses are abusive. It's like punching someone in the face whenever they say anything, then getting annoyed when they never say anything.
I won my cape fair and square from the celestials

you cant has it back!
90 Human Death Knight
8100
Doing the right thing? Then you must reset the season because the players that took advantage of this exploit to increase rating and standings within the new changes to pvp. These people knew what they were doing is wrong, but didn't care and true justice will not be served if they keep their ill gotten gains.

As the saying goes the cream will rise to the top. Reset the season.

P.S. Still a lot of people sitting at top of brackets with multiple pieces of grievous gear. Fair is fair, need to do a season reset to completely fix this issue.
Edited by Miting on 9/25/2013 3:49 PM PDT
100 Human Hunter
15635
Yes, that is what tends to happen when the vast majority of a community's responses are abusive. It's like punching someone in the face whenever they say anything, then getting annoyed when they never say anything.


I feel bad for Blizzard employees somtimes
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