EoL nerfed?

100 Blood Elf Mage
17990
Kaels is doing the same thing for another Holy Priest right now.
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100 Blood Elf Priest
12515
OK. Doing a mini-analysis of a random holy priest log from today.

...finding one who's logged out as Holy so I can be reasonably sure the gear is correct...ok, here we go.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-xkh56g3ig5szm6zm/analyze/hd/spell/?source=9&s=11454&e=12073

Armory:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/durotan/ictus/advanced

Mastery: 5538 + 3000 from raid buffs translates to 27.79%. No procs.

Raw healing from spells that trigger EoL:

Divine Star: 87,422,145
Circle of Healing: 14,938,070
Prayer of Mending: 13,606,302
Divine Hymn: 13,835,386
Prayer of Healing: 17,812,694
Binding Heal: 5,036,720
Rapid Renewal: 247,854
Greater Heal: 137,655

Total: 153,036,826
Expected EoL raw healing: 42,528,933
Actual EoL raw healing: 38,746,043

Trying another fight (same priest, I really don't feel like looking up another main spec holy priest):

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-xkh56g3ig5szm6zm/analyze/hd/spell/?source=9&s=7854&e=8255

Raw healing from spells that trigger EoL:

Divine Star: 71,585,577
Divine Hymn: 13,279,436
Prayer of Mending: 6,060,473
Circle of Healing: 8,122,624
Binding Heal: 3,981,117
Prayer of Healing: 5,554,103
Rapid Renewal: 182,997

Total: 108,766,327
Expected EoL raw healing: 30,226,162
Actual EoL raw healing: 28,411,169

That fight eliminates one possible explanation of the discrepancy on Galakras (people running out of range with EoL still on them). So the only other possible explanation I can think of, besides a bug, is that people have +healing received buffs on for heals that then fall off before EoL ticks.

But it seems highly unlikely that that alone should account for an 8-9% difference. I'm leaning towards there being a bug.
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100 Blood Elf Priest
12515
Attempting to check to see if this is a pre-existing issue. Here's a priest who healed Sha of Pride as Holy on Monday, is still logged out as Holy, and isn't wearing any of the items he obtained in that raid:

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackrock/Nomine%C3%A9/advanced

Log:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-7mhihdm8cei5f8o6/analyze/hd/spell/?source=190&s=5019&e=5691

Mastery: 10064 + 3000 raid buff translates to 37.22%. Prismatic Prison makes that either 38.22 or 38.59.

Raw healing from spells that trigger EoL:

Divine Star: 29,256,799
Divine Hymn: 19,538,120
Prayer of Mending: 11,591,440
Circle of Healing: 8,100,035
Prayer of Healing: 12,854,725
Flash Heal: 4,630,213
Greater Heal: 2,500,991
Heal: 1,978,451
Rapid Renewal: 624,174

Total: 91,074,948
Expected EoL raw healing (PP additive): 34,808,845
Expected EoL raw healing (PP multiplicative): 35,145,822
Actual EoL raw healing: 32,173,185

So pretty much the same discrepancy as in the logs from today. If this is a thing, it may not be new. Or this dude might have reforged since Monday. Would help to have a pre-hotfix log from someone who can verify that they haven't changed their gear.
Edited by Kaels on 10/10/2013 12:19 AM PDT
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90 Pandaren Priest
7670
Yup, I went through previous logs to find out if it was an issue too. I also tested it in-game and stacked EoL really high to see if there was some sort of cap causing it. Anyway, it looks like there isn't a cap, and the total EoL values accord with the total amount of raw healing. It does seem that this is an issue constrained to logs.

TLDR, no need for panic, our EoL values appear to be calculated properly! :)
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90 Pandaren Priest
14930
TLDR, no need for panic, our EoL values appear to be calculated properly! :)


Just more of it seems to be going to overheal. :-\ I'm still seeing the overall percentage of my healing coming from EoL going down.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
7530
Since the change my EoL has been lower on my overall healing and higher on my overhealing. TBH EoL already overhealed too much. It's a nerf in my eyes.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
11805
Since the change my EoL has been lower on my overall healing and higher on my overhealing. TBH EoL already overhealed too much. It's a nerf in my eyes.


This.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
18055
So we got a stealth buff! EOL can stack much higher now...but its 30% less effective than it once was.
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90 Tauren Druid
8435
Since the change my EoL has been lower on my overall healing and higher on my overhealing. TBH EoL already overhealed too much. It's a nerf in my eyes.


A nerf to meters not actual healing is not really a nerf.

Maybe a nerf to ones ego.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
11805
Says the druid who is comfortably at the top WHILE bringing Tranq AND a Battle Res :)

http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Spec_Score/10N/100/14/60/default/#0000000000000000000000000000111111
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100 Blood Elf Mage
17990
Tony, with the massive volume of flat out whining you have done over the course of this expansion about druids on the meters, you really should just decline to ever post in a thread about the performance of other healers.
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90 Pandaren Priest
14930
10/10/2013 04:56 PMPosted by Tonydanza
Since the change my EoL has been lower on my overall healing and higher on my overhealing. TBH EoL already overhealed too much. It's a nerf in my eyes.


A nerf to meters not actual healing is not really a nerf.

Maybe a nerf to ones ego.


Tony, with the massive volume of flat out whining you have done over the course of this expansion about druids on the meters, you really should just decline to ever post in a thread about the performance of other healers.
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90 Pandaren Priest
8345
10/10/2013 04:59 PMPosted by Taymage
Tony, with the massive volume of flat out whining you have done over the course of this expansion about druids on the meters, you really should just decline to ever post in a thread
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100 Blood Elf Priest
15700
is it time for a crit build perhaps?

haste wasn't working well for me this week, and i also hate renew.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
10090
is it time for a crit build perhaps?
haste wasn't working well for me this week, and i also hate renew.


The tier set is fully mastery you're out of luck.
They’ve redone resto shamans and druids and now holy priests are seriously due for a redesign so we can do something else than always be looking for barycenters (most centric persons to cast POH on in a group). This is the healing spec with the biggest required attention span.
That EOL nerf and delay really weren't needed.
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90 Orc Shaman
12885
A nerf to meters not actual healing is not really a nerf.

Maybe a nerf to ones ego.

[obligatory Nerf Glyph of Efflo™ comment here]
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90 Goblin Priest
5720
[obligatory Nerf Glyph of Efflo™ comment here]


Is it really a nerf to it? Holy mastery is kind of an all the time thing, whereas healers shouldn't be using their raid cds at the same time anyway. It's literally every spell other than sparkle floor for holy.
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90 Pandaren Priest
14930
A nerf to meters not actual healing is not really a nerf.

Maybe a nerf to ones ego.

[obligatory Nerf Glyph of Efflo™ comment here]


I'm not mean enough to call for that.

For one thing, I actually prefer to stand in Efflo and Healing Rain, because it makes my job easier. :-P
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90 Pandaren Priest
14930
So buff chakras by a additional 10%.

EoL Problem wont be solved but holy burst will go up.


Oh god.

No, please...Please no more buffs to Chakra! D:
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