thanks for fixing our heals..but what about.

80 Dwarf Priest
3320
what about our 30 yard range spells. what about our mana regen. these are serious problems that need to be addressed before time runs out.


please blizzard dont make the first cata season lame for healing priests.




do you not think 30 yard range spells are a problem? and our mana regen?
Edited by Powerwordwtf on 11/17/2010 7:09 AM PST
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100 Troll Priest
12740
The +20% to heals just makes up for cutting more than half of the amount of spell power Inner Fire provides in a previous build.
Edited by Manjula on 11/17/2010 7:13 AM PST
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80 Dwarf Priest
3320
i wonder how shadows doing for pvp...
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85 Goblin Shaman
2665
What about... the priest whiners?


They are getting annoying right?

"Hey look we get buffs. QQ QQ QQ"


it's true!

for all the QQing pallies did, when they got their changes, they were like "ahh, thank you."

priests whine and complain, get changed, then find something new to whine and complain about.
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85 Human Priest
7515
Holy will have it's regen at 85 on par with other healing classes if they choose to pick up Archangel. That will give us a short CD healing buff and the ability(like other healers) to regain mana through attacks. It's coming, be patient.
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100 Human Priest
13285
Holy will have it's regen at 85 on par with other healing classes if they choose to pick up Archangel. That will give us a short CD healing buff and the ability(like other healers) to regain mana through attacks. It's coming, be patient.


Wasn't it calculated that you would be an absurdly high mana pool get a net gain of mana after casting 5 smites and only receiving back 5% total mana from Archangel?
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85 Undead Priest
6340


priests whine and complain, get changed, then find something new to whine and complain about.

that's what happens when there are a lot of things still wrong and only 1 problem out many are getting fixed.
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85 Undead Priest
6340
Holy will have it's regen at 85 on par with other healing classes if they choose to pick up Archangel. That will give us a short CD healing buff and the ability(like other healers) to regain mana through attacks. It's coming, be patient.


Wasn't it calculated that you would be an absurdly high mana pool get a net gain of mana after casting 5 smites and only receiving back 5% total mana from Archangel?


i believe it's at ~300,000 mana is the break even mark.
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85 Goblin Shaman
2665

that's what happens when there are a lot of things still wrong and only 1 problem out many are getting fixed.



i think there's a major disconnect between perceived problems and actual ones.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
6500

that's what happens when there are a lot of things still wrong and only 1 problem out many are getting fixed.



i think there's a major disconnect between perceived problems and actual ones.


As someone mentioned it's the PvP problems that are more difficult to overcome then the PvE problems. I haven't done anything in beta my priest couldn't handle PvE wise, even if another class could have done it better.

In PvP there's not much I can do when I can't out heal a single DPS even when not being cced and have such crappy regen (in PvP gear) that I can actually run OOM spamming the efficient heal with OOC regen.
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100 Troll Priest
14330
Holy will have it's regen at 85 on par with other healing classes if they choose to pick up Archangel. That will give us a short CD healing buff and the ability(like other healers) to regain mana through attacks. It's coming, be patient.


Please know what you're talking about before you respond. On the current beta build archangel returns 1% mana per stack as opposed to lives 3% mana per stack. At this rate you would need an unreachable amount of mana in order to actually gain mana and offset the mana spent on smite to gather the stacks.

Edit for correction at 3% per stack on live. Must have been half awake when I said 5
Edited by Cynthesis on 11/17/2010 1:47 PM PST
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90 Blood Elf Priest
12135
The +20% to heals just makes up for cutting more than half of the amount of spell power Inner Fire provides in a previous build.
I don't think they ever reduced it, the datamined tooltips were just bugged to say it gave twice as much SP as it did. I specifically recall IF giving me half the SP that wowhead said it gave on the beta.
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85 Blood Elf Priest
5210
What about... the priest whiners?


They are getting annoying right?

"Hey look we get buffs. QQ QQ QQ"


it's true!

for all the QQing pallies did, when they got their changes, they were like "ahh, thank you."

priests whine and complain, get changed, then find something new to whine and complain about.


What good is 20% extra healing when we are constantly oom?
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85 Troll Priest
3040
Holy will have it's regen at 85 on par with other healing classes if they choose to pick up Archangel. That will give us a short CD healing buff and the ability(like other healers) to regain mana through attacks. It's coming, be patient.


Please know what you're talking about before you respond. On the current beta build archangel returns 1% mana per stack as opposed to lives 5% mana per stack. At this rate you would need an unreachable amount of mana in order to actually gain mana and offset the mana spent on smite to gather the stacks.


(It's 3%/stack on live.)

Are you taking into account the 18 seconds with +15% healing, also? I don't mean to say it's wrong, but everyone I've seen has focused solely on the mana itself, but there are two effects happening there. The +heal is devalued a fair amount from not affecting PWS, but the recent 20% buff to priest Heals and PoH is a significant consideration, also.

Granted, there's still the issue of actually casting five Smites, but Smite scales with spell power at a considerably higher rate than Heal does. The question is then more "at what gear level is it better to Smite than to Heal, given that Atonement has targets to heal?" and I think the answer to that is pretty low, even with only a 5% return on Archangel, since Smite will easily yield a higher HPS than Heal with an even higher HPM due to the return of mana, in addition to 18 seconds with +15% to normal healing. This, however, assumes that Archangel is used for efficient healing, rather than mana regeneration as AA was originally advertised. I see this as more of an issue of clarity on the developers' parts than an actual issue.
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85 Goblin Shaman
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What good is 20% extra healing when we are constantly oom?


it's almost like a 20% bonus to throughput will allow you to use your more mana efficient heals more often or something!
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