Open Libram XCIX: See the Light!

100 Blood Elf Paladin
14565
Greetings and welcome to the 99th installment of the Open Libram! The perfectly grilled alternative to Mangle/Sentry Totem and Tank Lounge!

In these threads, we talk about everything Paladin. Some cool. Some lame. Some information dangerous. Got that question that you're kind of afraid to make a new thread about, or just tired of getting trolled on Trade Chat? Ask it here for a more personal response.

So Blood Elves, get your hair ready, Draenei and Tauren clean off your hooves. Dwarves, the nearest alcohol is to your left for your enjoyment and Humans... well do whatever it is you do that keeps you alive. Or stuff.


Enjoy! Have fun everyone!

Previous Libram: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10433743746
Libram Archive: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4254457548

Paladin Social Networking:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/283670185033463/

My Little Ponydins by Lobster:
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7448/ponydins1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/s8CSF.png

"Maid" by the Light: http://i.imgur.com/7zB4K.jpg
Cadenpony: http://i.imgur.com/bU0bh.png
Claw of the Law: http://i.imgur.com/zGCZVWs.jpg
Caden-bram: http://i.imgur.com/XFrocNX.jpg

"Bunny" Chaz by Lobster: http://i.imgur.com/IokKV.png

Vanilla Ret Pally "Melgibsmash":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6zGEBhJMHA

Title Track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElDyeBHeNgw

Couldn't think of a clever name, had to run out as soon as I posted this <_<

Late edit: Caden-audited and corrected! I think.
Edited by Jackishi on 11/9/2013 8:30 PM PST
100 Draenei Paladin
15010
So they've announced the end boss. I won't post it, it'll be on MMO-C if anybody wants to know.
90 Blood Elf Paladin
9325
So shouldn't talents as they are now go away too? They're exactly the same. A calculator tells you which one is best and you use it. Original talents, enchanting, then gemming, and then reforging, and new talents. All of them were designed to be "fun" ways to customize your character, and all of them are math questions.


Well, not exactly. As much as I've been complaining about it forever, not ALL of the talents come down to math problems. Namely the speed or CC tiers, or the tiers that let you choose between a passive or active ability that theory out to roughly the same output over a long fight (letting you choose between if you want active burst, less burst but more on demand, or a passive thing that won't bloat your bars and requires less management but conversely doesn't give you as much control.)

Most reforging options don't give you much of any of that. It might if you had a lot more things procing on crit, say, so you could go for a crit build if you like being on top of everything or a haste/mastery build if you just like more passive damage.

It's an idea they had with some glyphs (like the Inquisition glyph), but screwed up too much.
90 Blood Elf Paladin
9325
So they've announced the end boss. I won't post it, it'll be on MMO-C if anybody wants to know.


That...HAS to be a joke.

...it just HAS to be!!
90 Tauren Paladin
8020
11/09/2013 02:59 PMPosted by Arthinas
So they've announced the end boss. I won't post it, it'll be on MMO-C if anybody wants to know.


That...HAS to be a joke.

...it just HAS to be!!


It is. They weren't serious about their response.
100 Draenei Paladin
15010
11/09/2013 03:01 PMPosted by Soledo
It is. They weren't serious about their response.

Sounded legit to me. The Wrathion line was a joke obviously, but the rest sounded legit.
100 Draenei Paladin
17330
Wrong Previous Libram link, here's the correct one:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10433743746

Also you may want to use the share link for your titletrack to make it easier to get too, interesting song.

The team has talked about putting a level 90 purchase option in the store


That will be the end of it for me.
Edited by Cadenbrie on 11/9/2013 3:03 PM PST
100 Draenei Paladin
15010
OK, 1 piece and when you respec the primary stat changes.

I guess that means +str for ret, +stam for prot, +int for holy.

Not sure how that works with prot liking str too, ..
90 Tauren Paladin
8020
11/09/2013 03:02 PMPosted by Muletia
It is. They weren't serious about their response.

Sounded legit to me. The Wrathion line was a joke obviously, but the rest sounded legit.


But, they would have revealed that yesterday if they were actually legit about it.
90 Blood Elf Paladin
9325
Thank the Light.

Hm...
I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but honestly, this is the most uninteresting expansion reveal ever to me.

BC had a new world and flying mounts and new races.
Wrath had a new class and continent.
Cata had the world being changed and new races.
Mists had a new class and new continent and new race(s).

This has a new world, but it's an old world that may or may not matter in the end, no new class reveal has been made, no new race reveal has been made...and the new world isn't like BC where we were going to fight THE BURNING LEGION. Here we're going to fight the Iron Horde...

...which is a combination of the Old Horde - which has long been dead...
...and the New Horde - which we JUST SPENT AN EXPANSION FIGHTING.

It'd be like if Cata was about fighting younger versions of the Scourge (because people weren't tired of fighting Undead by then) or Mists was about fighting more crazy cultists and Deathwing's left pinky which somehow survived the battle (because people weren't tired of righting cultists and Deathwing by then).

It just doesn't seem...INTERESTING to me.

I haven't heard of any new spells other than the talents, which are cool looking but nothing to write home about, there's no Burning Legion in sight (we get to fight Orcs again...yay...?), and...I dunno, Garrisons are like Pet Battles - something that people didn't exactly ask for (it's not exactly player housing...) but we're getting anyway.

Don't get me wrong, pet battles are mildly fun, but I almost never do them and it was hardly something worth buying an expansion for.

.

I dunno, I'm just feeling a whole lotta "meh" about this one...which I've never felt before AT A REVEAL. I was actually looking forward to Pandaria, Cata, Wrath...

...this is more like...I dunno. "meh" describes my feelings so far pretty much. I feel like I'm waiting for some big reveal that they're holding back. The Legion maybe? Playable Ogres? I dunno, SOMETHING?
100 Draenei Paladin
15010
11/09/2013 03:06 PMPosted by Soledo
But, they would have revealed that yesterday if they were actually legit about it.

They could have, but if it was me I wouldn't just announce it.

The way they answered and the "so we kill both ..." with a straight forward "yes" makes me think it's legit.

In the end I know nothing though. :)
100 Draenei Paladin
17330
When the Dark Portal turns Red and cuts you off from regular Outland, you might be able to go through Caverns of Time.


Because that makes sense......
93 Dwarf Paladin
14455
11/09/2013 03:10 PMPosted by Cadenbrie
When the Dark Portal turns Red and cuts you off from regular Outland, you might be able to go through Caverns of Time.


Because that makes sense......


Yeah, 'cause that totally has nothing to do with time travel.
90 Blood Elf Paladin
9325
11/09/2013 03:10 PMPosted by Cadenbrie
When the Dark Portal turns Red and cuts you off from regular Outland, you might be able to go through Caverns of Time.


Because that makes sense......


Right?

Want to go to another world in the present? Use the Caverns of Time.
Want to go to another world in the past? Use the other world portal in the present.

...yeah, THAT makes sense.

I know Outland is in a 4 year time-lag to the rest of the world, but I hardly think that means the Caverns of TIME is the way to get us there. XD
100 Draenei Paladin
17330
..yeah, THAT makes sense.


Blizzard and their horrible story telling and attention to their own details and continuity just aren't worth it anymore.

They don't care, they just slap crap together.

Damn it.
Edited by Cadenbrie on 11/9/2013 3:14 PM PST
90 Blood Elf Paladin
9325
Yeah, that's the feeling I'm getting from this one, too.
90 Tauren Paladin
8020
I gave up when it became clear that they think players liked Hellscream and the whole HvA conflict (from Wrath onward).
100 Draenei Paladin
15010
"Somebody ask about quivers and stuff, I have an answer for you this time .."

Visible quivers and librams inc?

Q) Cross character transmog like D3 - get items once, use on any character .. WoW too?
A ) It's on our minds, yes. Very unlikely for WoD release, but we want to.

[e] and nobody asked about quivers and stuff, so no answer was given.
Edited by Muletia on 11/9/2013 3:25 PM PST
90 Blood Elf Paladin
9325
"The Horde will have a chance to go back and redefine itself, and come away from the end of Mists of Pandaria even stronger."

Really?

...really...?
100 Draenei Paladin
17330
The Horde will have a chance to go back and redefine itself


So I want to say that this proves their goal of white washing the Orcs but since none of this changes our actual Prime Timeline it doesn't......

Maybe in their fantasy it does.

Really?

...really...?


Oh yes.
Edited by Cadenbrie on 11/9/2013 3:24 PM PST
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