on need roll limitations.

85 Draenei Paladin
5280
I guess this can classify as "QQ". But it was just so frustrating. Farmed the living hell out of earth boss after the invasion event just to get the tank shield drop. And it did. And it was need rolled by a shaman. What the hell. I would mind it a lot less if a warrior or paladin did it. But come on, a SHAMAN? Need rolling on a TANK shield? So not cool.

Shamans should not be allowed to roll need on a TANK shield. Unless Shamans were also specifically designed to tank, and last I checked, they were not.
Edited by Caelii on 11/18/2010 3:01 AM PST
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
11180
Currently there is no difference between dps/healer/tank gear. If you can wear it, you can roll need on it, and that's the way it should be. If the shaman wants to wear a tanking shield then by all means he should be allowed to roll on it. That's his choice, not yours.

Granted I feel for you. And most likely the shaman just sold it to a vendor. But you can't change the rules of the game just to fit the small exception of jerks out there.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
5875
normally i would agree with you, but at this point in wotlk id say it does not matter much. the shield looks kind of cool and is a nice little trophy from the cata pre-launch event. with the lack of items like tabards or pets in this event its nice to have something to remember it.
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85 Draenei Paladin
6100
It's alright, a nice sword dropped for me in one of the ICC 5 mans and a DK needed on it... Needed on a tank sword... A definite upgrade from my blue.... ; 3;
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80 Troll Shaman
2225
http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=8017

back off, I'm a tank this %$^%$^
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85 Draenei Paladin
5280
I've mellowed out. But it was still so not cool. It never occured to me that shamans can actually use tank stats. I already compete with them as a holy pally before.

Anyway. thanks for your sympathies. I've chilled a bit. I always get the lousiest rolls on shields. Also always lost to neverending winter. :S. Ah well.
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10 Gnome Rogue
50
I feel the same way every time I see a warlock roll on healer items, warlocks don't need spirit.
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85 Tauren Paladin
3190
I feel for ya. I had the same thing happen. Lost the roll to a shaman, but luckily it dropped the very next run for me. It does suck when it just won't drop for you. You have a lot of people that are "oh i can roll on it so I will", then some people are like me, that won't roll on dps gear when tanking, or tanking gear while dpsing, and same with healing gear. To me, it's just not right, but then again not everyone see's it the way I do. It's one thing if the main spec doesn't need it though, but in your case, at least from my point of view, you should have gotten the shield, but that's WoW for ya :).
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80 Troll Shaman
2225
nah strength, dodge etc... all useless for shaman.

enhancement doesn't use shields and both elemental and restro don't use strength and are too busy casting to ever dodge.


rockbiter is for those times when there's a stray ranged mob in a pull that you want to keep off the healer.
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75 Blood Elf Paladin
1810
Speaking of need rolls (please don't mind the short hijack), is there any reason I couldn't roll need on Libram of Saints Departed (http://www.wowhead.com/item=24386)?

I'm guessing I've missed some change in how greed/need works or something.
Edited by Atrapoema on 11/18/2010 11:03 AM PST
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85 Draenei Paladin
5280
I feel for ya. I had the same thing happen. Lost the roll to a shaman, but luckily it dropped the very next run for me. It does suck when it just won't drop for you. You have a lot of people that are "oh i can roll on it so I will", then some people are like me, that won't roll on dps gear when tanking, or tanking gear while dpsing, and same with healing gear. To me, it's just not right, but then again not everyone see's it the way I do. It's one thing if the main spec doesn't need it though, but in your case, at least from my point of view, you should have gotten the shield, but that's WoW for ya :).


Yeah that does suck. I never roll on gear I'm not currently specced for it. It's just common sense not be an ass and give people a chance. But yeah. That's WoW for you. Common sense is often a rare thing, sadly.

nah strength, dodge etc... all useless for shaman.

enhancement doesn't use shields and both elemental and restro don't use strength and are too busy casting to ever dodge.


rockbiter is for those times when there's a stray ranged mob in a pull that you want to keep off the healer.


That's what I thought. So W-T-F.
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80 Troll Shaman
2225
It's like a hunter rolling on a tank ring, because they can
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86 Dwarf Paladin
7900
I had a couple of Johnny Jerko's in a random on an alt the other day, a mage and a hunter, who continually rolled need on EVERYTHING. When called out on it, their response was "We're friends and we bet on this stuff. If I win I get 10g, if he wins, he kicks me in the nuts."

People are inconsiderate idiots behind their wall of anonymity.
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75 Blood Elf Paladin
1810
for example....DK's in outland who death grip EVERYTHING they can while they're DPS....very very very very very annoying.


Ugh. I've been having this very problem lately. I just let the DK have it, since it's an overall waste of my time to pull it back from them, though. If they die, it's their own fault, and I'll laugh at them for it.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
3410
When a pro DPS pulls off me I let him have it, it'll be dead in two seconds anyways. When a nub does it, I pull it off the healer after he's gotten himself killed.
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82 Blood Elf Paladin
1885
I really like the Rockbiter enchant change. I am totally going to have to link that to my friend so he can start shammy tanking again. :)
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