If you dispel my PW:S..

80 Blood Elf Priest
2840
I get healed for the full amount it would have absorbed, plus my next casted heal cannot be interrupted.

Priests need dispel protection in the way of UA/VT.
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80 Blood Elf Priest
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So what's it going to take to stop spam offensive dispelling on priests?
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85 Blood Elf Warlock
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So what's it going to take to stop spam offensive dispelling on priests?


A nerf to dispels.

Which is unlikely to happen. Everything's dispel spam fodder no matter how much it impacts a class's ability to function.
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80 Blood Elf Priest
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So if I have two melee training me -- which basically means I can only rely on jukes to cast heals -- and I have say a shaman spam dispelling me, how am I supposed to heal myself?

Before you say "have your partners peel for you", remember that classes can pop cooldowns and be immune for short periods of time. Enough time to land a kill.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Nerfing offensive dispels needs to happen regardless of who the target is.

How different is it at 85?
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85 Goblin Shaman
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I'm not real fond of your proposal, but I'd happily trade you some kind of dispel protection for a 3m cooldown on mana burn.

What do you think?
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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Nerfing offensive dispels needs to happen regardless of who the target is.

How different is it at 85?


From what i've heard the supposed trade off was mana cost, but all i'm finding is that there's no risk to dispelling, hardly any cost, and can completely hobble some specs
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80 Blood Elf Priest
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The cost/benefit ratio for spam dispelling to land a kill is way off right now, and frankly a simple mana increase is probably never going to fix that problem. Not only will it mess up PvE, but the possibility of landing a kill will always outweigh a large mana cost.

That leads me to believe that dispel protection in the way of UA/VT -- whatever the exact protection turns out to be -- is the way to solve, or at least help the situation.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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How bout....

5 second CD on dispel.


6 sec cd, 1 thing removed for both offensive and defensive IMO.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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The cost/benefit ratio for spam dispelling to land a kill is way off right now, and frankly a simple mana increase is probably never going to fix that problem. Not only will it mess up PvE, but the possibility of landing a kill will always outweigh a large mana cost.

That leads me to believe that dispel protection in the way of UA/VT -- whatever the exact protection turns out to be -- is the way to solve, or at least help the situation.


For plds, i've always thought it should be a punishment system for dispelling something. It'd make sense, and would invoke a thought process to the whole thing.
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80 Blood Elf Priest
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Why did they give lifebloom dispel protection? Because it was too easily countered by dispels and made the spell largely useless without it. (It too needs an increased benefit to the Druid if it's dispelled, but that's another thread entirely)

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80 Blood Elf Priest
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So if I have two melee training me -- which basically means I can only rely on jukes to cast heals -- and I have say a shaman spam dispelling me, how am I supposed to heal myself?

Before you say "have your partners peel for you", remember that classes can pop cooldowns and be immune for short periods of time. Enough time to land a kill.


So basically you are asking to be OP enough to survive a 3 on 1? ... yeah, never going to happen.


Am I not allowed to heal myself vs. TSG when a DK pops all of his immunity cooldowns and a warrior uses his cool downs? I'm not asking to survive for long periods of time 3v1, but I should be able to heal myself momentarily, at least to last a few seconds..

edit: and they way that is done is usally through instants like PW:S, PoM, and even renew, but if all of those are getting removed in 2-3 globals without thinking twice...then where I am left?
Edited by Lowee on 11/19/2010 1:57 PM PST
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85 Human Rogue
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Am I not allowed to heal myself vs. TSG when a DK pops all of his immunity cooldowns and a warrior uses his cool downs? I'm not asking to survive for long periods of time 3v1, but I should be able to heal myself momentarily, at least to last a few seconds..


Sure, you're allowed to heal yourself if you can juke interrupts and 1v2 their damage dealers, or you could even do the unthinkable; have your teammates join the fight and try to run interference so you don't get run over.

Also, is this the healing forums and Blizzard just made a mistake in labeling it Damage Dealing?
Edited by Holdem on 11/19/2010 2:00 PM PST
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62 Dwarf Rogue
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So if I have two melee training me -- which basically means I can only rely on jukes to cast heals -- and I have say a shaman spam dispelling me, how am I supposed to heal myself?

Before you say "have your partners peel for you", remember that classes can pop cooldowns and be immune for short periods of time. Enough time to land a kill.


Are you suggesting that you should be balanced around the hypothetical situation in which you are outnumbered and your attackers are immune to any potential peel?
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