Buying a new Desktop for Cat

80 Gnome Warrior
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i am in the market for a new desktop for Cat and my budget isnt huge as i am getting married and in college, so out of these 2 which desktop would be better?
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=15231528&findingMethod=rr#rr


http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBuypower-811121014896/15261867

they are the best priced ones i found even after looking through newegg, and tigerdirect.

thank you :)
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80 Gnome Warrior
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32 Draenei Shaman
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They both have decent hardware except for the same silly Radeon 5450, that's not much of a gaming card and won't give you a very pleasant gaming experience.
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80 Gnome Warrior
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lucky if only i could afford one of those haha, as of right now i am stuck between those 2 choices, which one do you think is better in your opinion, only differences are the i3 550 processor (3.2 GHZ) vs the AMD Athlon II x4 ( 3.0 GHZ) but idk which is better.
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They're pretty much equivalent except that a Core i3 550 will squeeze out a bit more performance. The video card department on both systems are on the lacking side so if you're using a decent-sized monitor, you may want to consider replacing it.

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80 Gnome Warrior
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i am upgrading the video card to a 1GB dedicated one once you guys help me decide which one has the better processor, ect.
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They're pretty much equivalent except that a Core i3 550 will squeeze out a bit more performance. The video card department on both systems are on the lacking side so if you're using a decent-sized monitor, you may want to consider replacing it.

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Thank you thats exactly what i wanted to know, always thought a quadcore processor would be better, but guess i was wrong haha :)
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For a game like World of Warcraft where you generally have ~2 main cores being used, a faster dual core processor will outperform a quad. Not by much, mind you, maybe a few frames a second. If you played a game like Call of Duty: Black Ops, the quad core AMD system will be faster by a significant amount.

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Edited by Datth on 11/20/2010 3:15 PM PST
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80 Gnome Warrior
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For a game like World of Warcraft where you generally have ~2 main cores being used, a faster dual core processor will outperform a quad. If you played a game like Call of Duty: Black Ops, the quad core AMD system will be faster.

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So which processor do you think will serve me the most amount of time without having to upgrade? I keep reading that quad-core is becoming more popular among aps ect, i am sorry for so many questions i am not too computer savvy
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90 Blood Elf Hunter
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I feel terrible for coming into this thread thinking you were talking about buying a desktop for a feline friend. >.>

Aaanyways, now that that's out of the way, both of those systems are decent-ish. The first one you linked (with the AMD Athlon II X4 processor) would be quite a bit better since it's got more cores, but as Datth pointed out, you'd want a better graphics card.

i am upgrading the video card to a 1GB dedicated one once you guys help me decide which one has the better processor, ect.


Bam, there we go. That's good. What card are you looking at specifically, by chance? There are low-end and high-end cards alike with 1 GB of video memory.
Edited by Kodiack on 11/20/2010 3:19 PM PST
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80 Gnome Warrior
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I feel terrible for coming into this thread thinking you were talking about buying a desktop for a feline friend. >.>

Aaanyways, now that that's out of the way, both of those systems are decent-ish. The first one you linked (with the AMD Athlon II X4 processor) would be quite a bit better since it's got more cores, but as Datth pointed out, you'd want a better graphics card.

i am upgrading the video card to a 1GB dedicated one once you guys help me decide which one has the better processor, ect.


Bam, there we go. That's good. What card are you looking at specifically, by chance? There are low-end and high-end cards alike with 1 GB of video memory.


i mean i love my cat but he loves playing wow with me using the same keyboard, he loves walking on it during BGs, but as for the video card i was thinking something along the lines of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462&cm_re=ATI_Radeon_5770-_-14-150-462-_-Product :)
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90 Blood Elf Hunter
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i mean i love my cat but he loves playing wow with me using the same keyboard, he loves walking on it during BGs, but as for the video card i was thinking something along the lines of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462&cm_re=ATI_Radeon_5770-_-14-150-462-_-Product :)


The Radeon 5770's always a good card. Not a bad choice. You should be getting some pretty nice performance out of that system.

You and your cat will definitely enjoy WoW with that system! :)
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80 Gnome Warrior
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any thoughts on this pc btw?
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-Power-2.8GHz-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-Radeon-HD5450-Gamer-Desktop/5530215/product.html
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90 Blood Elf Hunter
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any thoughts on this pc btw?
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-Power-2.8GHz-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-Radeon-HD5450-Gamer-Desktop/5530215/product.html


That's also a solid system. You'd get an L3 cache, and Phenom II processors tend to outperform Athlon II processors. It's also a cheaper price. Not a bad buy. Just note that you'd still need to upgrade the graphics card to that 5770.
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85 Undead Priest
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i3 is better for WoW than AMDx4. As Dath mentioned, a faster dual core will outperform a quad, and the i3 is much faster at single threads than an AMD AthlonII for the same clock speed. Your choices show the i3 also has a clock speed advantage, so it's clearly in the lead.

Check some of the benchmark comparison sites like:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/122?vs=143

That's a 100 Mhz slower Athlonx4 vs a 140 MHz slower i3 (640 and 550 weren't in the listings, results should be comparable)

Single threaded performance is so much higher on the i3 that the x4 is only 15-30% faster in the applications that can take advantage of more than 2 cores. Those that can't (which is most stuff people actually use... and WoW) show a huge advantage for the i3.

If deciding between an i3 dual and an x4 I'd choose the i3. In fact, I did choose the i3...
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80 Gnome Warrior
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i3 is better for WoW than AMDx4. As Dath mentioned, a faster dual core will outperform a quad, and the i3 is much faster at single threads than an AMD AthlonII for the same clock speed. Your choices show the i3 also has a clock speed advantage, so it's clearly in the lead.

Check some of the benchmark comparison sites like:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/122?vs=143

That's a 100 Mhz slower Athlonx4 vs a 140 MHz slower i3 (640 and 550 weren't in the listings, results should be comparable)

Single threaded performance is so much higher on the i3 that the x4 is only 15-30% faster in the applications that can take advantage of more than 2 cores. Those that can't (which is most stuff people actually use... and WoW) show a huge advantage for the i3.

If deciding between an i3 dual and an x4 I'd choose the i3. In fact, I did choose the i3...


So you are saying if you had to choose between
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-Power-2.8GHz-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-Radeon-HD5450-Gamer-Desktop/5530215/product.html
and the
http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBuypower-811121014896/15261867#Item+Description

you would choose the walmart one? and it would be better than the one with a Phenom II processor?
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87 Orc Death Knight
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Remember, neither of the 2 computers who chose in the main post come with a monitor.

Check this site
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

They are having great deals right now for Thanksgiving week.
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80 Gnome Warrior
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http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBuypower-811121014896/15261867

i ended up getting that :)
hopefully i made the right choice
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