Damage seems to be fine without wings popped (Though crusader strike could use maybe a 5% damage buff). I have no problem fighting any class (Frost mages are uber tricky though!).
So i give ret and holy power a bump for taking a class that didn't take much skill to a class that now requires a lot of skill and knowing how to respond in certain situations.
Damage is fine, Survivability is fine (Word of Glory ftw).For everybody who are QQing you need to learn how to manage holy power and focus on your certain situation whether in a duel or bg's to know when to use Templar's Verdict or Word of Glory.
And don't give me a response of "You must of fought bad players..."
Bring the skill not the QQ, learn how to play the new and improved ret paladin....about time we flushed out the noobs.