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Now before I begin, I would like all parties involved to know that I have no affiliation with the involved parties. I am no friend of Muscle or Ayuzawa. I was not asked and It was not suggested I read this. I have taken the liberty upon myself to express my free opinion on the matter.
i run a guild progression thread for the benefit of the guilds on cairne.
Right, whose benefiting exactly? Skethyl Berry at the top of the list? Please, the only benefit of this thread is for ego stroking- which leads to my next point-People that care enough about progression know where to find the rankings.
but i run a thread as a service to the realm
Yes, this is an undeniably difficult service to provide, without your time and dedication to this thread, Cairne progression would come to an abrupt halt. You are a blessing and god's gift to Cairne. Thank you for this challenging valorous task of editing posts you provide. Pfft! Back to my point that this thread is for Skethyl Stroking, the OP is the GM of the most progressed guild currently on Cairne. How about sticky a link to look up guilds on the armory? Give me a break!
where as i don't care one way or the other
You care enough to attempt to discredit his guilds achievement (so much so that you have responded not only once, but twice on the matter.). We can agree that killing chimaeron and twilight council is an achievement.(heck, looks only a handful of people have done it here!) Even IF they weren't in a guild group (which may or may not be the case) Pugging cataclysm raid bosses is i bet a hell of a lot more difficult than pulling together friends with a history of raiding. Wouldn't you agree? Nah, you probably don't have that experience. You probably want to keep it that way. You probably don't want other guilds to "benefit from the service i provide" You want it to benefit your own guild, and nobody elses (in this case grand armies) am i right?
According to the wowprogress (which we can agree is the authority on progression rankings),
it was called bs by people other than myself.
Grand Army has, per wowprogress (which we have established as the authority on guild rankings) has killed the involved bosses in you and your "bull!@@!ters" disagreement.
i do understand i previously said anything on wow progress is fine, unfortunatly you choose to post screenshots. when said screenshots proved it was not a guild run, you then try to post a wow progress link. it doesn't work that way.
I'm looking right over the front page now, Sweetheart, and I don't see ONE-SINGLE-THING about what the requirements are to get a guild on this list.
**Looking at muscles screenshot, where exactly does it say its not a guild kill?
***Muscle provides ADDED proof of his guild's kills, you still won't accept that maybe, maybe, there are competitive raid guilds on Cairne. What's the matter Sweetheart?
the reason being it was called bs by people other than myself
What reason exactly? You're reason for coming here to attempt (quite Elementary, I'll add) to discredit their guild is based on doubt? You doubt grand army could kill these bosses? You doubt a new guild to cairne (i dont know how long theyve been around, but they are new to me) could kill twilight council and chimaeron? Well I have news for your Sweetheart, Chimaeron and twilight council are not as difficult as you think they are according to this date at wowprogress as of this date. Chimaeron and Twilight council have been killed 13,000 and 12,000 times, respectively.
but i run a thread as a service to the realm, not from personal beliefs.
reason being it was called bs by people other than myself
So you called their kill BS, so did your friends. You flock to the forums and scan every inch of this screenshot for some mud to sling, because NO ONE, NO ONE! is capable of killing such a difficult boss, am i right?
not from personal beliefs
Sweetheart, ITS YOUR BELIEF, THAT GRAND ARMY DID NOT KILL THESE BOSSES.
To Ayuzawa: You're posts had more fallacies and hypocritical mudslinging pulp than a Republican Politicians Campaign. English I'd expect from a third grader (wink)
To Muscle: You kicked me from Baradin Hold because I wasnt doing 11k dps. Well I got news for you buddy, maybe try 2 healing it and have a healer switch to dps noob. You're an !%*%!%!, but congratulations on the kills. Stay strong, brother.
Now, I am going to pack my pipe and retire to my study where I will ponder thoughts of philosophy.
What reason exactly? You're reason for coming here to attempt (quite Elementary, I'll add) to discredit their guild is based on doubt? You doubt grand army could kill these bosses? You doubt a new guild to cairne (i dont know how long theyve been around, but they are new to me) could kill twilight council and chimaeron? Well I have news for your Sweetheart,
i too will now resign myself to my study, and try to not ever post of my own accord on the forums ever again. it's really just too painful to read
Sweetheart, thanks for taking the time to fully read and comprehend my post. (Who am I kidding, 8 year old afterall)
I'll find the blue post regarding guild achievement tracking is bugged.
*** Looking over wowprogress kill dates for grand army, and the dates he's actually posted the kills in screenshots. There appears to be quite a discrepency for this.
**** Oh look, looking over another screenshot, you can see that Halfus, and Valiona have been killed linked in his guild news. Guess what Sweetheart, their achievement isnt tracking halfus and valiona. (i'll reiterate, to get past your skull) Grand Army has undeniably killed halfus and valiona. Yet their acheivement isnt tracking it.
***** After this pipe and final chapter in Plato's Republic, I may even care just enough to link individual armories of his guild members just to show again how much of the incomprehensible fool you make yourself out to be.
@Raar humorous. but no thanks.
@ayuzawa I can see looking over one screenshot that it wasnt a "true" guild run. We had 7 out of eight members, our 8th guildie was on an alt that is member of another guild. ... My point is.. that kill was tracked, why the big deal now?
If the realm is not complaining about the legitimacy of the the kill then there is no reason to argue. If other guild that are competing for kills object then we can sit here and write 6 paragraph long posts about why a normal kill was not a guild kill...
as an update, everything that has gone on here has been resolved, and would like to encourage people to continue to post progression here, and have some fun. but keep the trolls away if you could be so kind
Guildox.com counts 5+ for its "guild" progression. It seems a bit more reliable of a source, considering wowprogress gives some mathiness for ratings(for time/date etc), but no real data (that I see) of guild criteria.
New update for VT : http://img821.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot011811175350.jpg/
Please update for Malevolent progression under 10 man.
EDIT: Also, Chimaeron 10 down, 9/10 with help of Pwrwrdpwn from Skethyl. See below.
Edited by Rknine on 2/3/2011 12:02 AM PST
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