Tank nerf

85 Tauren Warrior
10510
# Devastate no longer provides bonus threat.
# Shield Slam: Contribution of attack power reduced to 60%, down from 75%
# Heroic Strike damage has been reduced by approximately 17%.
# Shield Slam no longer generates 30% bonus threat from its damage.

so what, we basically cant do any threat now? Im really confused to why these changes (in particular the threat changes) were made and what if any benefit vengence is going to add if its basically not affecting shield slam
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82 Draenei Warrior
6995
/drink

I don't understand it quite right, but these are to balance things with how they are on the beta. The sky is not falling. Vengeance currently affects Shield Slam far too much, it will still benefit Shield Slam, it just won't give us 50 bazillion k shield slam non-crits.
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85 Human Warrior
2100
Defensive Stance generates all the threat you need, provided you're tanking correctly. Which is to say, tab-targeting, using the right opening combos, etc.

No one said tanking was supposed to be easy ;)
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85 Draenei Death Knight
7430
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083320458

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083320649

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083320554

/drink
Edited by Kalle on 11/22/2010 4:32 PM PST
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90 Human Paladin
12965
That's only, what, the third or fourth post today about this same non-issue?

It's not like the other threads are all still on the first page or something...oh, wait...
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90 Night Elf Druid
17755
I just read MMO Champ and I am outraged!
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85 Draenei Death Knight
7430
I think I am going to use this thread to help me copy and paste to the other urls over the next few days.
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82 Draenei Warrior
6995
I'm still waiting for druid nerf threads to appear here (Why is it only warrior threads?) so I can get some more delicious waffle recipes.
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85 Human Mage
10910
I don't think gutting warrior's tanking abilities to be non issue myself. But since they're popular it must be ok right?
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82 Draenei Warrior
6995
I hardly think they've been "gutted". We lost bonus threat, which they said they wanted to do ages ago. Shield Slam is still as powerful as it was, it's just less OP with high vengeance.
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90 Human Paladin
12965
I don't think gutting warrior's tanking abilities to be non issue myself. But since they're popular it must be ok right?


It's a non-issue when the changes have been on beta for weeks without breaking anything.

But hey - nice job getting indignant without bothering to understand the full story.
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90 Orc Warrior
10130

I don't think gutting warrior's tanking abilities to be non issue myself. But since they're popular it must be ok right?


Is that GC quote included in the freaking quest text for the WW axe now?

It's like folklore.
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90 Human Paladin
12965
Is that GC quote included in the freaking quest text for the WW axe now?

It's like folklore.


More like a JFK conspiracy theory.

No matter how many times you debunk it, it just never dies.
Edited by Alandrek on 11/22/2010 5:10 PM PST
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86 Night Elf Warrior
5325
These changes mostly effect single target threat and on live I had a bit of wiggle room there. So I don't see this breaking Warrior threat. If anything it'll even it out a bit.
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85 Draenei Death Knight
7430
These changes mostly effect single target threat and on live I had a bit of wiggle room there. So I don't see this breaking Warrior threat. If anything it'll even it out a bit.


no no no, you don't get it. Sky = Falling. Darn it!
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85 Human Warrior
11430
Not to hijack such a glorious thread topic, but does anyone know if the 1stam:14hp conversion is going live tomorrow? I know it wasn't on the PTR servers, but it's been on the beta servers for a while.
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85 Draenei Death Knight
7430
My guess would be no.
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85 Human Mage
10910

It's a non-issue when the changes have been on beta for weeks without breaking anything.



But hey - nice job getting indignant without bothering to understand the full story.



Actually, and this should be fairly obvious if this were the old forums, I'm a paladin. I do have a warrior alt, but that's hardly my main as he isn't even max level.

I just think it's bull that warriors have fewer cooldowns, have lower threat, lower mitigation, lower avoidance, and plain out lowest self healing and then get hit by more nerfs when I was expecting buffs. But sure, it must be because I have so much at stake. What with my level 75 not going to be chosen over my main.

No. I'm actually rather concerned over tanking balance.
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90 Human Paladin
12965
No. I'm actually rather concerned over tanking balance.


There are much more pressing balance concerns than a few already-tested threat tweaks finally trickling down to the live servers. This really is a non-issue.
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