Dude where's my ret dps?

86 Human Paladin
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Before the latest ret changes I was consistently top 3-5 in DPS. After the patch, I am consistently bottom 3-5 in dps. Same spec, almost the same rotation, same gear. All ret paladins in raids I have been in since that patch are consistently near the bottom in dps. Ret dps is so low that if I was a raid leader, I would reconsider bringing any ret paladin to the raid for dps. Its simple math really, and raid leaders who hope to progress cannot ignore it. Right now, if you want to progress, don't take the ret paladin for dps.

Will ret dps be this bad at 85?

Will ret dps jump from dead last to competitive in 5 levels?

unlikely...
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12 Undead Rogue
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Universal answer for "What happened to my DPS?" "What happened to my class?" "What happened to my abilities?" "What happened to my talents?" questions that occurs after 4.0.1 :

Wait until level 85
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85 Human Death Knight
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Will ret dps be this bad at 85?



Will ret dps jump from dead last to competitive in 5 levels?



unlikely...




By looking at the movies put out by Paragon and Irae AOD I saw a # of Rets that were top 4 area most fights and 1st place a few. I didn't get the chance in beta to play with a Ret in PvE but all I heard was how bad the mechanics are. This leaves me to believe they are ok on dps since if they weren't the extremely vocal pally community would have been unable to shut up about it. But idk I wont bring out my pally for fear I will have to heal so I haven't paid attn to see if there were any game breaking changes since blizzcon. Most of what I saw dps wise was War, Lock, DK any spec, Ret, all those possible top 3 and Hunter 3-5. The vids somewhat back up my xp I was really surprised to see Ret so high cuz they felt like less of a threat in PvP.
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86 Human Paladin
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lawl, i am now being out-dps by a prot pally by 3k in ICC 25. nice.

prot pally was #2 dps on loot ship. great pve dps balance!
Edited by Samaul on 12/1/2010 7:35 PM PST
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90 Draenei Paladin
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If I had to guess, they reverted the hotfixes. I.e. you won't get back to parity until Inquisition.

*Wait, how did I miss that this was about loot ship? /facepalm
Edited by Snozberries on 12/2/2010 6:12 AM PST
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85 Orc Death Knight
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lawl, i am now being out-dps by a prot pally by 3k in ICC 25. nice.

prot pally was #2 dps on loot ship. great pve dps balance!


Your dps is probably bad because you think Gunship is a fight to care about who is doing more damage.
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90 Human Paladin
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lawl, i am now being out-dps by a prot pally by 3k in ICC 25. nice.

prot pally was #2 dps on loot ship. great pve dps balance!


He was probably tanking the adds. He's AoEing the ENTIRE fight. What are you doing? Oh yeah, you're supposed to be killing mages and/or shooting cannons and occasionally helping with adds. Also Vengeance.
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That's funny, because I am still among the top DPS.
Edited by Maeltum on 12/2/2010 2:14 AM PST
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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My car is gone too!
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
8240
Why are you even still running ICC?


Why are you not?
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90 Orc Warlock
11775
It's waiting for you at level 85.
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