Priests Renew. Why bother casting it?

85 Blood Elf Priest
11235
4k mana @ 85 for a 2800 tick. The scaling is all wrong. My flash heal still heals for virtually the same as it did with wrath health pools and I am now expected to spend 6k mana on it. I am already relegating this to tanks under 25% health. So renew is useless with Cata health pools, flash is relegated to 25% of the fight and forget about Heal...what a dumb idea that was to implement a light-as-a-feather >2 sec cast heal. My regen is toast (I am hearing priests have it the worst, but that may just be QQ as loads of healers are hurting atm).

I suppose my sentiment is why are healers so screwed when tanks can tank and dps can dps, why cant' healers heal?
I played for 5 years for those of you thinking I am wrath-born scrub, before you start to lace into me with your pro-ness.
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90 Night Elf Druid
7825
Healing is broken, I totally agree. Scaling is totally wrong, and druids have it bad too, as we are constantly casting and rarely get to 5 seconds. The new "cheap" heals like Heal and Nourish are totally useless, as they take forever to cast and do minor healing.
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85 Undead Priest
6485
Renew isnt useless, just not as viable now. Nothing has changed as it has been a % of your max mana. With your mana pool much larger, the cast costs more mana. I admit that the new Renew and Flash Heal right now have the lowest/worst HPM right now and Renew is not worth keeping up like we used to in WotLK. I do still find it viable in mobile fights or on a DPS that isnt worth you losing focus on the tank but that you can afford the mana to hit him with a renew.

Heal IS now a viable heal and is our new "Flash Heal" if you want to look at it like that.
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85 Undead Priest
6485
12/10/2010 6:43 PMPosted by Restochango
Healing is broken, I totally agree. Scaling is totally wrong, and druids have it bad too, as we are constantly casting and rarely get to 5 seconds. The new "cheap" heals like Heal and Nourish are totally useless, as they take forever to cast and do minor healing.


You may be right, Heal is a very long cast for its output but keep in mind, it is keeping your Grace active and reducing Weakened Soul.
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85 Blood Elf Priest
11235
12/10/2010 6:44 PMPosted by Insheadii
Renew isnt useless, just not as viable now. Nothing has changed as it has been a % of your max mana. With your mana pool much larger, the cast costs more mana. I admit that the new Renew and Flash Heal right now have the lowest/worst HPM right now and Renew is not worth keeping up like we used to in WotLK. I do still find it viable in mobile fights or on a DPS that isnt worth you losing focus on the tank but that you can afford the mana to hit him with a renew.

Heal IS now a viable heal and is our new "Flash Heal" if you want to look at it like that.


Obviously. My intent was to post something quickly. I agree with mobility usage, but the scaling of EVERY heal in the game is busted. We are still healing for virtually the same throughput as we did in Wrath, but are now expected to heal more incoming damage and and larger health pools. 50%+ of my mana to top off the group AFTER a pull. Come ON?!
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90 Troll Priest
7520
Uh..I cast renew at the start of the fight on the tank and never cast it again? Heal+Chakra...keeps renew on the target permanently.
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85 Blood Elf Priest
11235
12/10/2010 6:51 PMPosted by Vazziera
Eh.. bubble is way to mana expensive to cast for its output.. so.. no need to worry bout reducing that weakened soul.. 3500 mana for 6k absorb?


Couldn't agree more. It is more beneficial to use it in Holy spec on a tank. Although I am getting 11k abosrbs out of mine. 3500 mana for 11k abosrb is pretty unbalanced to me considering you have hundreds of thousands of damage to heal in heroic boss content.
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85 Human Priest
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12/10/2010 6:43 PMPosted by Restochango
Healing is broken, I totally agree. Scaling is totally wrong, and druids have it bad too, as we are constantly casting and rarely get to 5 seconds. The new "cheap" heals like Heal and Nourish are totally useless, as they take forever to cast and do minor healing.


The 5 second rule is gone, you can no longer get faster regen by not casting for 5 sec. Mana regen is constant during combat, and goes up when you are out of combat.
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85 Goblin Priest
3985
Renew is only worth casting as Holy while in Heal Chakra so you can roll it indefinitely. Worthwhile for a tank, but that's about it. I think the intent was to make Renew the Priest version of Lifebloom - we have the option to cast it on multiple people but it's so inefficient at this gear level there's no point. When we have enough haste to add another tick things might be different.
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85 Undead Priest
6485
12/10/2010 6:58 PMPosted by Enfermera
12/10/2010 6:51 PMPosted by Vazziera
Eh.. bubble is way to mana expensive to cast for its output.. so.. no need to worry bout reducing that weakened soul.. 3500 mana for 6k absorb?


Couldn't agree more. It is more beneficial to use it in Holy spec on a tank. Although I am getting 11k abosrbs out of mine. 3500 mana for 11k abosrb is pretty unbalanced to me considering you have hundreds of thousands of damage to heal in heroic boss content.


Take into account Divine Aegis as well. I know it isnt much but still it has to be accounted for.
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