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yeah, me and my bf were in heroic grim batol for 3 hours didn't get anything but several repair bills going red 3-4 times but it was worth staying and sticking it out.
It was trial and error as people learned the mechanics of some of the boss encounters because they hadn't done it in heroic before.
First group where i saw real team effort on all party members.. perhaps there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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