Ret PvP - Really that bad?

85 Night Elf Druid
7070
My Priest friend pst me last night. He was running 2's as shadow with a ret & said he went 12-0. My friend wanted to join him for 3's & we went 12-3 or 13-3 (I'm feral).

1 comp beat us 2x (out of 4 times we faced them) which was almost a mirror matchup Feral/Ret/DK(frost?) and their Ret smashed our ret in the face every time. 2 of the matchs we nuked their DK before he could do much & tried to CC their druid to get some damage on him (and keep him off our spriest) and the other 2 times our ret had to bubble quick, and bubble our Spriest, but the incoming dmg was too much.

TL|DR Is it as bad as they say? Our preist prolly could have been more on the ball with dispells but that feral was wrecking his day.

Moo
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
6325
Yes. Ret Pvp isnt as good as it was in Wrath. Personally i think that if they would have kept it the same but just gave us an interrupt we would be happy.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
5030
I did ret/mage two's yesterday with a friend of mine, we went 5-5 at a 2k MMR. Our only problem was me being squishy and getting tunneled, and spriest/mage. Not to mention we weren't really using vent or anything.

Frankly, i was surprised doing arena felt alot different from BG's. It was way slower, and when I got my damage ramped up and rolling. (Inquisition/wings/other cd's) it wasn't really that bad, and the flexibility of WOG (even though it didn't heal for much) was really fun.

Ret/shadow goes well together, I ran it last season in two's it was fun.

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85 Night Elf Druid
7070
Interesting.

I heard QQ that Ret's movement now was very good and that they were maintaining high uptime (similar to feral). I noticed from out games that our ret was squishy too. I (feral) have a pile of CD's to get me out of a bind, so did our Spriest, but our Ret would just bubble -> heal and then on the next burn on him he would fall over.

In my 2's with my DK (frost) he kept spell stealing pally bubbles/LoH (we BG'd a bit too) and then would loose his mind laughing on vent. We fought a Prot(pal)/Prot(war) and they were both focusing him (we were both focusing the pally) then the pally bubbled and the war switched to me. I was like "Wtf?" before my DK starting lol'ing on vent saying he stole the pally bubble.

Moo
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