Cataclysm Raid Progress: Winterhoof

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12/22/2010 10:39 AMPosted by Mystiik
please make a separate list for 25 man kills. 10 and 25 kills are not the same, nor should they be tracked on the same graph, thanks.


Please read the pre-word
Edited by Horatío on 1/5/2011 8:49 PM PST
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Ad Honores downed Magmaw 10man
85 Blood Elf Rogue
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<Demise> downs Magmaw @ 10:51PM!
85 Goblin Mage
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Omnitron down to <Viral>
85 Troll Priest
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Open Late kills Maloriak
85 Human Paladin
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Winter Blades downed Magmaw on 12/21
Edited by Opladin on 12/23/2010 6:01 PM PST
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Winter Blades has now downed Magmaw on 12/21, Omnotron on 12/22, Halfus on 12/23
Edited by Opladin on 12/23/2010 7:19 PM PST
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<Demise> Kills Omnitron @ 10:05P.M.
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<Demise> Downs Halfus at 11:43PM Dec 23.
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Zombie Land Just Downed The Litch King On 10 Man WTG Zeros
85 Human Rogue
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12/22/2010 10:39 AMPosted by Mystiik
please make a separate list for 25 man kills. 10 and 25 kills are not the same, nor should they be tracked on the same graph, thanks.


I think this would be a good idea. It would be nice for a few reasons. For example, when people are looking for raiding guilds to apply to, it would be an easy way to see whether a guild is raiding 10s or 25s, since some people prefer one over the other. Plus, even though they have the same loot, it still feels awkward to me saying 10s and 25s are essentially the same, because I'd say they are not.
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12/25/2010 9:02 AMPosted by Miesvander
please make a separate list for 25 man kills. 10 and 25 kills are not the same, nor should they be tracked on the same graph, thanks.


I think this would be a good idea. It would be nice for a few reasons. For example, when people are looking for raiding guilds to apply to, it would be an easy way to see whether a guild is raiding 10s or 25s, since some people prefer one over the other. Plus, even though they have the same loot, it still feels awkward to me saying 10s and 25s are essentially the same, because I'd say they are not.


I can somewhat see your point, and having notation to let people know what is 10 and what is 25 is in order. 10s and 25 won't ever truly be considered the same, in 10s, its obviously easier to gather people therefore people will consider it easy mode, however in 10s you must be more accountable for yourself. In 25s there's always going to be less accountability for carrying your weight as a few good players can carry a few average/below average players. Some of the encounters are significantly harder going from 10 to 25 man and vice versa from what I've read on the forums.

Do I think we need a totally separate list for 10s and 25s? Not necessarily, just notate with [10] or [25] before guild name, to make easier on tracking purposes. I'm all for having it worked out though, but as no guilds have started in 25 man to my knowledge *and I may be wrong* I think it will have to be a bridge we cross when we get to it.

just my 2 cp.
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Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to say that 10s are easier than 25s or any less of an accomplishment. I only meant that they are simply just not the same and I don't think can be compared. Perhaps something as simple as a [10] or [25] will do.

10s and 25s have their own unique challenges, and if Blizzard did their job, both with be equally difficult this expansion.

As far as I know you're right, that no guilds have started 25s yet, though I do know at very least, Winter Blades will still be a 25 man raiding guild and plan to start our 25s after the new year.
Edited by Miesvander on 12/26/2010 12:38 PM PST
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<Rubicon> so far has downed Halfus, Valiona&Theralion, Conclave of Wind, Magmaw, and Omnitron Defense System

85 Dwarf Warrior
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The Art of Warfare downed Ascendent Council
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The Art of Warfare downed Maloriak
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As a side note to the above posts about 10 vs 25 man progress::: please read the pre-word

Edited by Horatío on 1/5/2011 8:50 PM PST
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Btw Demise 3/12 not 2/12. we have Omnitron down.
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