12/16/2010 9:39 PMHeroics are what its all about now hes fully geared in regs since thats ALL he does Now he LOVED heroics in wotlk he loved getting those nice badges to get the vendor gear and when he saw the vendor gear with justice points i remember him telling me to group with him so i can dps in his heroic. He tried about 25 diff heroics till he broke down. I got so tired fo yelling at ppl who called him retarded, or hes too slow blizz should make him delete his acct". Its just sickening. I know hes geared he knows better then to just run into heroics even in wrath although u could do heroics straight out of 80 he still wanted to be geared fully through regs
Posted by Rîkû
Well, to be fair, he wasn't farming heroics a week after Wrath came out, either. The stat inflation that occurred over the course of those four tiers meant that by the end, we had some tanks with almost three times as much health as the ones tanking at the very beginning. It meant the DPS could practically tank for us. It meant healers had a lot of time to respond to damage and could cast whatever they wanted. You could do heroics straight from dinging 80 because chances were good you'd find yourself with a 40k+ tank and an Arcane Mage pulling 13k DPS on bosses.
We're not there yet. We're not even on the road to that yet. While we can hope that the developers have learned from their mistakes and won't let stats get out of control again, the "average" gear is still going to improve, and your cousin will be paired with better-equipped allies in heroics. I think we can all agree we've already seen a dramatic improvement in the stability of a heroic run in the last few days, and it's not because the instances were nerfed or healing was buffed across the board. It's because people are learning. But people are still learning, and it still isn't a breeze.
It isn't realistic for any player
to treat any of today's heroics like Azjol'Nerub or Violet Hold.
12/16/2010 9:39 PMand to the "heroic dungeons are not" uhmm i wanna know what your smoking. The whole game was to cater to everyones needs. Go troll elsewhere please. Why would blizz go ok dungeons are for the casuals and the slow heroics r for pro player well duh that is what RAIDS ARE FOR! plus if i do remember correctly the casuals i saw in wotlk also farmed heroics just for money badges to get gems and whatnot so i do believe heroics were originally for the casuals as well as the people gearing up.
Posted by Rîkû
Heroics are indeed intended as a gearing stepping stone to raiding. That doesn't mean they aren't intended to be challenging. A lot of players are still struggling with heroics, even though they're a "tier" below the most challenging content currently in the game. A lot of players were still struggling in Trial of the Grand Crusader when Icecrown Citadel was opened.