rupture

100 Troll Rogue
9120
is there anypoint to this ability?

just did some tests on a target dummy without trinks on to make sure it was pretty accurate.

a 5pt rupture will do about 8k damage with the hemo buff up.

Thats rediculous, a crit backstab does more than a 5 pt rupture.

So is there any point to using this ability in pvp anymore? for things other than venomous wounds and to keep rogues from popping stealth I mean.
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85 Dwarf Paladin
5385
Venomous Wounds is all I see. So far, stacking mastery like a retard and getting mad Venomous Wounds procs sounds funny.
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82 Blood Elf Rogue
0
So much for "we want all abilities to be interesting" or whatever goal they had with cata. I think they forgot about rupture. One of the most useless abilities ingame now.
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100 Undead Death Knight
10320
Use it in pvp against high armor targets, it does more than you think.
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82 Blood Elf Rogue
0
12/25/2010 9:02 AMPosted by Bodygrinder
Use it in pvp against high armor targets, it does more than you think.


No.....it doesn't.
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85 Goblin Rogue
4555
12/25/2010 8:53 AMPosted by Redfang
just did some tests on a target dummy



I stopped reading here.
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100 Troll Rogue
9120
12/25/2010 10:04 AMPosted by Max
just did some tests on a target dummy



I stopped reading here.


damage for non armor based abilities is equal on everyone, target dummy doesnt matter.
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85 Tauren Druid
6190
Honestly it should be an embarrassment for the revs that the ability has been so bad for so long.
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85 Orc Rogue
10440
rupture is balanced damage right now........





...for level 70
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85 Night Elf Warrior
5615
12/25/2010 1:58 PMPosted by Cihlardr
Honestly it should be an embarrassment for the revs that the ability has been so bad for so long.


I love you Cihlardr. Always so calm and open to everything about balance in this game.

rupture is balanced damage right now........





...for level 70


I lol'd. But it's so true T_T

There's a reason my rogue is still 80 after being my main from mid vanilla.
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85 Undead Rogue
3600
Devs forgot to scale it to 85, along with wound poison.
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85 Blood Elf Rogue
5150
12/25/2010 8:57 AMPosted by Stoutfist
Venomous Wounds is all I see. So far, stacking mastery like a retard and getting mad Venomous Wounds procs sounds funny.


... He was typing about Subtlety.

12/25/2010 9:02 AMPosted by Bodygrinder
Use it in pvp against high armor targets, it does more than you think.


It does less than I think, actually.


12/25/2010 9:54 AMPosted by Minotaurum
Only Mut Rogues use Rupture.

And it's not because of Rupture.


This.
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85 Undead Rogue
5325
12/25/2010 1:58 PMPosted by Cihlardr
Honestly it should be an embarrassment for the revs that the ability has been so bad for so long.


I know I have said this before, but I swear they are reluctant to buff rupture because they want ferals to be the "bleed" spec. I am not condoning that philosophy, but it is pretty obviously the case. They went to great lengths to get rogues to use rupture without buffing the ability itself.

Personally I am thankful for the effort, as using rupture makes the rotation for assassination sooo much more enjoyable.... but it did make me raise an eyebrow.
Edited by Brochaidomus on 12/25/2010 4:20 PM PST
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85 Tauren Druid
6190
HHonestly I would rather have sub been about armor pen through shadow damage than bleeds to draw it away from feral theme. That is no longer really an option sadly.

Its silly that rupture is so bad regardless of dev concern about similarities to feral. Even something Like backstab being bleed (aka 100% arpen ) based on ruptured targets. Would go a long way.
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90 Blood Elf Rogue
12970
I think so. On plate at least. It's funny seeing rupture tick for 1k and rip tick for 4.5k...
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