Pandaria Paladin Pre Raid Gear Guide (5.2)

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85 Human Paladin
6435
Because it just realized I never said it... Signet of the Elder Council. Then just reforge the haste into dodge and you have very good ring.
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85 Human Paladin
5860
Because it just realized I never said it... Signet of the Elder Council. Then just reforge the haste into dodge and you have very good ring.

Added, thank you!
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
4745
for ret, shouldnt Blade of the Fearless be 2nd? or at least 3rd, im not sure if the stats are better than the bottomless pit sword, but it has the same stats and a slower swing time than the BS hammer, also, on that note, Arced War Axe should be below Foe Reaper, i believe, unless the ranking of the gear in the list is not according to order, in which case ignore me, :3
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88 Draenei Paladin
4550
dont forget Darkheart Hacker from Baradian's Wardens. Sorry, couldn't get the stupid link to work. : /
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85 Human Paladin
5860
03/28/2011 01:38 PMPosted by Yvesh
for ret, shouldnt Blade of the Fearless be 2nd? or at least 3rd, im not sure if the stats are better than the bottomless pit sword, but it has the same stats and a slower swing time than the BS hammer, also, on that note, Arced War Axe should be below Foe Reaper, i believe, unless the ranking of the gear in the list is not according to order, in which case ignore me, :3

It´s really hard to rank the gear... for example:
You would be needing expertise because you are down the cap so you may find Arced War Axe a viable option, but if you are exp capped you may find that sword useless and maybe Sword of the Bottomless Pit is a better option.
Again: It´s hard to determine which one is better or worse... it´s a list of all the gear you can get before raiding, you have to make the choice :-)
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90 Human Paladin
6255
Anyone have a suggestion for a great rotation for Ret Paladin
Edited by Dragonznight on 4/2/2011 10:34 PM PDT
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
5950
Are these items in a certain order?
As in BiS [Best in Slot] comes first?
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
2795
I"m confused as to why the Forged Elementium Mindcrusher weapon is listed as the third most desired weapon, while the Arced War Axe is listed as the 7th most desired weapon. The only difference between the two is that the crafted weapon has 0.1 dmg/sec more. It takes 3 chaos orbs, 5 hardened elementium, and 6 truegold to make the crafted weapon. Is it really worth 0.1 dmg/sec more?

thank you!
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85 Human Paladin
5860
I"m confused as to why the Forged Elementium Mindcrusher weapon is listed as the third most desired weapon, while the Arced War Axe is listed as the 7th most desired weapon. The only difference between the two is that the crafted weapon has 0.1 dmg/sec more. It takes 3 chaos orbs, 5 hardened elementium, and 6 truegold to make the crafted weapon. Is it really worth 0.1 dmg/sec more?

thank you!

Fixed, thank you!
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85 Human Paladin
5860
Are these items in a certain order?
As in BiS [Best in Slot] comes first?

Hi!
It´s hard to do a BIS list due to Hit / Exp caps.
Thank you!
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85 Human Paladin
5860
03/30/2011 12:49 PMPosted by Ellinda
dont forget Darkheart Hacker from Baradian's Wardens. Sorry, couldn't get the stupid link to work. : /

Added, thank you!
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85 Human Paladin
8400
I think it would be worth relooking at your ret paladin gear list keeping in mind that the new stat priority ratings post the last patch moved mastery up to our best secondary stat (after hit and exp are capped), followed extremely closely by crit, but lagging way behind is haste.

Haste for Ret right now = reforge off to hit, exp, mast or crit in that priority

Look here for Redcaps stat waitings from Exemplar's EJ guide:
http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110342-retribution_concordance_4_0_6_compliant/p24/#post1859320

As well I think you might want to consider weapon speed and raw damage a little more for ranking the 2 hand weapons as usually slow wep speed = higher dps for us, example....you have the TB sword way down the list and I suspect it at minimun belongs in the #3 slot (but in my opinion is actually better off in the #2 behind the epic Arch sword). You may have already considered this in which case I'd love it if you could link your source as everything I've read would suggest that the 3.8 speed weps top the list.

Khor at RetributionPaladins.com has done a nice job of putting together a similar list for ret pre raid...It's worth looking at.

http://retributionpaladins.com/

Just my 2 cents. Thanks again for outting this together.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
5030
any suggestions on best place for troll tab or is it just e.k?
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86 Blood Elf Death Knight
6815
how long did it take to get zin rokh and pauldrons of edward the odd???
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
8290
Why is Signet of the Elder Council so high on the list for prot, since neither agi or haste are that helpful for them?
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85 Human Paladin
6435
Why is Signet of the Elder Council so high on the list for prot, since neither agi or haste are that helpful for them?


Last response for the wing.

190 Agi provides .54% Dodge. You reforge the Haste for another .23% Dodge.

~.77% Dodge + 127 Mastery is a lot of CTC.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
6410
Cinnabar Shoulders
I'm not sure, but for holy, these shoulders should be fine.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
7040
I look forward to seeing this list updated for 4.1!

Why is Signet of the Elder Council so high on the list for prot, since neither agi or haste are that helpful for them?


Last response for the wing.

190 Agi provides .54% Dodge. You reforge the Haste for another .23% Dodge.

~.77% Dodge + 127 Mastery is a lot of CTC.


To clarify, how good is this ring relative? I'm currently using the best two heroic 346 rings on the list...should I use this ring over one of them? Thanks again.
Edited by Jehfee on 4/26/2011 10:42 AM PDT
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85 Human Paladin
6435
04/26/2011 07:12 AMPosted by Jehfee
To clarify, how good is this ring relative? I'm currently using the best two heroic 346 rings on the list...should I use this ring over one of them? Thanks again.


I have no idea which heroic rings you have and the servers are down so I can't give you numbers...but. I am 90% sure off the top of my head it is better then any blue ring.
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