[H] Trial and Error Recruiting for 25 Raids

90 Orc Hunter
10690
06/05/2012 10:54 PMPosted by Shizuka
H Spine dead with 25% buff, Madness next


Congrats! Glad to see you got it!
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100 Undead Mage
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H Madness Dead. First (probably only considering this server) 25 raiding guild on Draenor to knock it over. It fell over as soon as all the E3 people came back.

Grats Dotapotamus and Kaloph on the first two Handmaidens.
Edited by Shizuka on 6/11/2012 8:50 PM PDT
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100 Undead Mage
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Looking for Shamen! We love Shamen and especially love Spirit Link Totems.
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100 Night Elf Hunter
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After you experience 25 raids, are you going to disband?

How many do you have left till then? 4? 2?
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100 Undead Mage
17525
09/06/2012 01:55 AMPosted by Threeslotbag
After you experience 25 raids, are you going to disband?


We plan to continue raiding throughout Mists of Pandaria.

Hopefully you Alliance players get their act together and put a competing 25 raid together, it's been far too quiet without any competition.
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100 Night Elf Hunter
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09/06/2012 06:12 PMPosted by Shizuka
After you experience 25 raids, are you going to disband?


We plan to continue raiding throughout Mists of Pandaria.

Hopefully you Alliance players get their act together and put a competing 25 raid together, it's been far too quiet without any competition.


I think they all left to "real" realms.
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34 Dwarf Warrior
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Jesus Christ........... How can you even put out competition with the raid awareness of a 2 year old.........http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/us/draenor/shizuka/
Edited by Dekel on 9/12/2012 10:18 PM PDT
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90 Night Elf Death Knight
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09/06/2012 06:12 PMPosted by Shizuka
After you experience 25 raids, are you going to disband?


We plan to continue raiding throughout Mists of Pandaria.

Hopefully you Alliance players get their act together and put a competing 25 raid together, it's been far too quiet without any competition.


This is like the comedic quote of the century.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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09/06/2012 06:12 PMPosted by Shizuka
Hopefully you Alliance players get their act together and put a competing 25 raid together, it's been far too quiet without any competition.


So let me get this straight the 11 guilds ranked higher then you on this server are not competition?

Our 3rd alt run will out progress you.

Also Tier 11 would like to say Hi.
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90 Dwarf Hunter
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you guys were slow on this one
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90 Night Elf Death Knight
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09/13/2012 06:21 PMPosted by Minko
you guys were slow on this one


ikr. normally we get on these like immediately. must be ellory quitting, it's slowing our dbag reflexes down.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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09/13/2012 06:21 PMPosted by Minko
you guys were slow on this one


We were too busy number crunching trying to figure out how in the hell we can even attempt to compete with these guys.
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100 Undead Mage
17525
09/14/2012 11:48 AMPosted by Ryq
We were too busy number crunching trying to figure out how in the hell we can even attempt to compete with these guys.


When you get 15 other people then maybe you would be worthy of competition. Heck, maybe even respect.

There's nothing to be proud about taking the easy way out.

09/12/2012 10:18 PMPosted by Dekel
Jesus Christ........... How can you even put out competition with the raid awareness of a 2 year old.........


I'm sorry your raid doesn't trust you with anything important.
Edited by Shizuka on 9/16/2012 3:01 AM PDT
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90 Draenei Shaman
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When you get 15 other people then maybe you would be worthy of competition. Heck, maybe even respect.

There's nothing to be proud about taking the easy way out.


Why don't you go get 15 more people and raid AQ because thats the only way you will have a shot at beating anyone in progression on this server, You're trying to hold on to some puny belief that 25 man and 10 man are not equal. You're not even the top guild Horde side yet you think that because you are the only 25 man guild on this holy !@#$ tard of a server you mean something to anyone.

09/12/2012 10:18 PMPosted by Dekel
Jesus Christ........... How can you even put out competition with the raid awareness of a 2 year old.........http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/us/draenor/shizuka/


09/16/2012 02:54 AMPosted by Shizuka
I'm sorry your raid doesn't trust you with anything important.


this is exactly why you raid in a 25 man guild you can hide in the numbers and no one notices how bad you really are.
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90 Dwarf Hunter
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09/16/2012 02:54 AMPosted by Shizuka
We were too busy number crunching trying to figure out how in the hell we can even attempt to compete with these guys.


When you get 15 other people then maybe you would be worthy of competition. Heck, maybe even respect.

There's nothing to be proud about taking the easy way out.


Having raided 25s and 10s extensively there practically the same difficulty wise.

Some fights have been historically harder in 25's and some have been harder in 10's. Hell the majority of Tier 11 was miles above the difficulty of 25's when it was progression.

Meanwhile you are fed 3x the amount of loot per boss, faster legendarys and have multiple wipe recovery options.

The only thing hard about 25's is the logisitical side of it.
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100 Undead Mage
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09/16/2012 08:33 AMPosted by Minko
The only thing hard about 25's is the logisitical side of it.


And that's part of what also makes it fun.

Come join Trial and Error, because we are the only guild on Draenor that offers 25 man raiding.

You're not even the top guild Horde side yet you think that because you are the only 25 man guild on this holy !@#$ tard of a server you mean something to anyone.


It means something to us. We love this server, even with its flaws and population imbalance because it's 'home.' If it doesn't mean anything to you, do not apply.

09/16/2012 06:45 AMPosted by Ryq
this is exactly why you raid in a 25 man guild you can hide in the numbers and no one notices how bad you really are.


Working as a team player is more important than your own personal ego. If you are asked to do something sub-optimal so the raid can succeed, you will do it. There is no one person that is such a superstar that you are more important than the other 24 people in the raid.

Of course, if you are not willing to work with the raid, do not apply.
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90 Night Elf Death Knight
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09/16/2012 11:43 AMPosted by Shizuka
The only thing hard about 25's is the logisitical side of it.


And that's part of what also makes it fun.

Come join Trial and Error, because we are the only guild on Draenor that offers 25 man raiding.

You're not even the top guild Horde side yet you think that because you are the only 25 man guild on this holy !@#$ tard of a server you mean something to anyone.


It means something to us. We love this server, even with its flaws and population imbalance because it's 'home.' If it doesn't mean anything to you, do not apply.

09/16/2012 06:45 AMPosted by Ryq
this is exactly why you raid in a 25 man guild you can hide in the numbers and no one notices how bad you really are.


Working as a team player is more important than your own personal ego. If you are asked to do something sub-optimal so the raid can succeed, you will do it. There is no one person that is such a superstar that you are more important than the other 24 people in the raid.

Of course, if you are not willing to work with the raid, do not apply.


If you stuck with statements like these and not outlandish claims about being better than guilds that killed heroic Madness four months before you, we would probably leave you alone. Your position on 25 v. 10 is a fair one. Claiming you're "better" than a guild that killed a boss 4 months before you is not.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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09/16/2012 11:43 AMPosted by Shizuka
Working as a team player is more important than your own personal ego. If you are asked to do something sub-optimal so the raid can succeed, you will do it. There is no one person that is such a superstar that you are more important than the other 24 people in the raid.


Please tell me what fight requires people to do something in 25 man that 10 man does not also require someone to do the exact same thing. It may require less people to do it (deluge on Heroic Ragnaros for example) but it still requires someone to sacrifice there personal numbers for the raid to succeed.

There is no raid wide difficulty difference between 10 and 25 there may be fights which are easier in 10 but there will be the same amount that are easier in 25. It is also well known that T11 was far more difficult in 10's then 25's this is more then likely because it was the first raid to be split within the same iLvL range and it has since become much more even.

The choice to raid 10 over 25 or vice versa is ones own personal choice and for anyone to think that either one is superior then the other is just flat out wrong.
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90 Pandaren Priest
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09/16/2012 02:54 AMPosted by Shizuka
When you get 15 other people then maybe you would be worthy of competition. Heck, maybe even respect.


Try Heroic Hagara on zero nerf 10 man progression, and then come back and tell us about how much easier 10 man is than 25. This tier had some fights that were more difficult on 25, and some that were more difficult on 10. Where "respect" for doing one vs. the other comes from, who knows. The fact of the matter is, they aren't all that different. You can separate them if it makes you feel better, but your accomplishment is no more grand than that of a 10 man raider.
Edited by Dictainabox on 9/16/2012 11:30 PM PDT
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90 Human Warrior
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http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/us/draenor/shizuka/ <----BAHAHAHA!!!!!

When people that look like this on epeen talk !@#$ like this I always get a song stuck in my head about them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVepW0bK30c

Everybody sing the chorus with Shizuka!!!!

"I'm Bad!!! I'm Bad!!! (really really bad) you know it!!!"
Edited by Virilher on 10/26/2012 2:15 PM PDT
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