Topic (Locked) Haste Issue Causing Ability Errors - Update#2
Bashiok
Bashiok
Community Manager
Edited by Bashiok on 2/9/11 8:14 PM (PST)
2/9- A hotfix for this issue has been applied but will require off-peak rolling restarts to pick up the change. For this hotfix and others stay tuned to our official 4.0.6 Hotfix update blog - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2259389#blog

2/9- The Haste issue was hotfixed last night but unfortunately as all hotfixes are quick fixes on the live realms, there is some risk associated with them and a new bug has been introduced. We believe the extent is that rogues, druids, death knights, and hunters are now not earning resources from true haste (such as from gear). We expect to implement a fix late tonight or early tomorrow. Our apologies for any impact this may have on your regularly scheduled play.

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An apparent last-minute bug which was not found on the PTR before the patch was finalized has caused the client and server to disagree on the way haste affects resource generation. This bug will manifest itself in the UI showing a player they have enough resources to use an ability, but the server correctly prevents it as they in fact do not. A death knight for example might see a rune light up that isn’t actually available so when they use the ability, it won’t fire. A rogue may think they have enough energy to use Sinister Strike, but they can’t actually afford it so when they push the button, they will get an error. This bug could affect rogues, death knights, hunters and Feral druids, because these characters all gain more resources from haste. It will also affect buffs that affect attack speed, such as Slice and Dice, Windfury, Icy Talons, and Hunting Party, but also attack speed lowering effects like Thunder Clap. We're currently working on a fix.
Wonelly
Hyjal
Wonelly
2 Gnome Mage
0
Edited by Wonelly on 2/8/11 6:47 PM (PST)
any word yet on the bugged queues, especially for xp-off players?

specifically




Simplest explanation of the bug:

People are queing for battlegrounds, the minimap states that they are in the queue but a game will never pop. Eventually after waiting in the queue for a very long time they discover that they can queue for dungeons and their battleground queue is no longer active.

There is no visual or auditory indicator that the queue has bugged but we have come up with a method to isolate the bug.

If you queue for Dungeons with LFG tool while your in a PvP queue you should get a message "You cannot queue for a dungeon while using battlegrounds or arenas.", if instead it actually allows you to queue for BG and Dungeons at the same time your queue is "bugged".

I have taken a video and screenshot of the issue to better illustrate what is obviously a bug:

http://www.49pvp.com/Uploads/BugVid.avi
http://www.49pvp.com/Uploads/BugPic.png

At beginning of video you see me trying to queue for LFG while in WSG queue and it performed normally by giving me the message "You cannot queue for a dungeon while using battlegrounds or arenas.

At 17 seconds into the video you can clearly see I am in the queue for WSG, and it allows me to queue for a dungeon also.

In the last 2 nights that we have queued for Random or WSG we have narrowed down that the "Bugged Queue" happens when we have enough to pop a game either side.

For example, we have sat in the queue for an hour one evening waiting to get enough players. I looked at my custom application I wrote for the bracket (sample pic http://www.49pvp.com/Uploads/qpic.png) and saw we were only short one player. As soon as we got that one player the queue bugged out for almost everyone.
Roguelete
Maelstrom
Roguelete
85 Human Rogue
3555
Yay!
Torquez
Stormreaver
Torquez
80 Draenei Death Knight
5245
Thanks for the notice
Elsepth
Aman'Thul
Elsepth
90 Human Death Knight
11290
Edited by Elsepth on 2/8/11 5:49 PM (PST)
Death Knights have been getting "Not enough runes/runic power" messages since the start of time. To be fair, I thought it was like it always used to.

And yay for spreading the love.
Azwraith
Cho'gall
Azwraith
90 Blood Elf Rogue
6590
Thanks for looking into this. Today I kept thinking, "wow how did I start lagging so bad all of a sudden as this patch went live?"

Turns out it wasn't a coincidence after all!

Sigfodr
Stormscale
Sigfodr
85 Goblin Mage
4625
02/08/2011 5:48 PMPosted by Fiddlesnarf
Swift Retribution


Nice job staying in touch with Paladins, this was taken out in 4.0.


Wow, you guys are ridiculous....

Here the guy is bringing helpful information to you, and you get all over his stuff because he made a quick typo trying to hash this out between the 100 other things he has to do.

Do you ever make silly mistakes at work? Yea


Thanks for the info bash
Bashiok
Bashiok
Community Manager
Edited by Bashiok on 2/8/11 6:10 PM (PST)
Here the guy is bringing helpful information to you, and you get all over his stuff because he made a quick typo trying to hash this out between the 100 other things he has to do.

Do you ever make silly mistakes at work? Yea


Haha, don't worry about it. It's like, three clicks for me to suspend someone. It's super duper easy.
Kharix
Blade's Edge
Kharix
85 Draenei Death Knight
6430
02/08/2011 6:10 PMPosted by Bashiok
Haha, don't worry about it. It's like, three clicks for me to suspend someone. It's super duper easy.


Best quote ever!
Lupiko
Feathermoon
Lupiko
90 Tauren Druid
14170
YES! Thank you!! I'd been wondering what the heck was causing that for MONTHS! Ever since I first noticed it on Festergut when I stupidly got hit by Malleable Goo...
Simca
Malfurion
Simca
90 Blood Elf Paladin
17680
02/08/2011 6:31 PMPosted by Loveriel
I would like to constructively point out that the beta and PTR phases in this expansion have been handled horribly. Constructively.


Concur, I've no idea what's going on but this expansion is way, way buggier than the last two. I know it's an MMO and bugs happen, but this is, at least in my own experience, just on a whole new level, It's not something I'd expect from Blizzard.


I think you've got a selective memory when it comes to Vanilla WoW.

Those days of bugs makes Cataclysm look pristine and refined.
Killada
Grizzly Hills
Killada
85 Human Priest
1910
02/08/2011 6:10 PMPosted by Bashiok
Haha, don't worry about it. It's like, three clicks for me to suspend someone. It's super duper easy.


Can you please turn on sigs so I can have that as my sig plz? pretty please? with sugar and cherry on top?
Borigrad
Illidan
Borigrad
85 Blood Elf Paladin
7775
don't worry bash we'll all laugh about this later.
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