The Exalted Title

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Recently we changed 'the Exalted' title to require 50 exalted titles up from 40, which meant those that had achieved it were now asked to get 10 more reputations to gain the title back. We felt this kept the title as a difficult reward given the additional reputations introduced with Cataclysm, and also avoided the problem of achievement inflation as the game continues to grow, devaluing the reward.

We didn’t let people know beforehand that we were making this change. A pretty cut and dry error on our part. We take full responsibility for not communicating the change properly, and apologize for the frustration it added to the situation. Unfortunately, that frustration in some people’s cases went to an extreme. Over the past couple days we’ve handed out innumerable suspensions to people who were unable to stay within the forum code of conduct while posting about this change. We of course understand passions can run hot, but some of the violations were extreme enough to remove people’s posting privileges permanently. It’s unfortunate because rational, calm, and constructive posting is the type of feedback that’s taken, discussed, and can help encourage real change. For those that were able to adhere to those posting ideals, we truly thank you for your efforts in keeping your cool.

We took your constructive posts and points, and after discussing the change for quite a while with the designers, the decision has been made to move ‘the Exalted’ title back to require 40 exalted reputations. We’re going to attempt this change with a hotfix, but are unsure at this time if it will be able to be applied through a hotfix. It’s possible that a client patch will be required. (We’ll let you know if it does.)

The 45 and 50 exalted reputation achievements will continue to exist, but for the time being won’t provide anything beyond achievement points. As some have questioned why the title isn’t grandfathered like ‘the Loremaster’ or ‘the Explorer’ titles, these function differently mechanically. While their requirements have changed, the actual achievement is the same. There’s no tech currently that allows us to give a title for an achievement and then move that title to a different achievement altogether and have people keep them. We are however working on such a technology that will allow players to keep items or titles associated with achievements even if we decide to change that criteria. So, say if we eventually decide to move ‘the Exalted’ title to an achievement which requires 60 reputations in the next expansion (just as an example), players who already earned the title at 40 reputations will get to keep the title when the criteria changes. This technology would allow us to let players keep titles or items they’ve already earned, while ensuring we don’t get stuck in a position where we have to continually generate new rewards just so those who earned them originally don’t lose them.

Thanks again for your feedback.
Edited by Bashiok on 2/11/2011 7:54 PM PST
85 Undead Mage
4900
Cool.
81 Draenei Priest
3155
As someone who was completely unaffected by this change either way, Bash, I thank you and the dev team for this decision. It's the right thing to do.
55 Human Paladin
920
Thanks. I think this will make a lot of players happier.

Overall, a good decision. And explained well.
85 Blood Elf Paladin
6395
since achievments are dated can't you just program it so that if 40 rep earned before xyz date = true then keep title. If 40 rep date is after xyz date then require 45, 50 whatever to grant title?


ps, i'm completely unaffected by this, couldn't care less about titles. just curious about the programming.
Edited by Skyypio on 2/11/2011 7:55 PM PST
70 Human Hunter
1090
02/11/2011 7:53 PMPosted by Lavita
thank you for seeing reason


It's less them seeing "reason" and more them explaining why grandfathering wouldn't have worked for this achievement in the first place.

Thanks for explaining the situation and taking the time to listen to the few, calm individuals that lurk around these forums.
10 Dwarf Shaman
20
Glad to see you guys reconsidered the title.
85 Blood Elf Paladin
6395
people seriously quit over a title?

I swear, people just live for crap to complain about these days. If your enjoyment of a game revolves around the text before and/or after your characters name you have definitely got to evaluate your standing in life.
90 Human Mage
14255
Please use this mistake as a learning experience for future changes to the game.
85 Tauren Death Knight
7675
Thanks. Great to know you guys are listening. Sorry that people couldn't handle it without resorting to ridiculous behaviour.
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