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(Last updated Jan. 21, 2015.)
Whether you're new to the class or a grizzled veteran, there's always more to learn about playing a rogue. In this thread, I’ll do my best to answer commonly asked questions on a wide range of topics relevant to every level and breed of rogue. At present I'm keeping this thread to PvE questions only; I'll fill in PvP gaps in the future.
If you've got any suggestions, Q's you'd like to see A'd, corrections or general death threats, feel free to post in this thread, flip me the bird at @SvelteKumquat or email me at firstname.lastname@example.org. I look forward to completely ignoring your messages. :)
Edited by Rfeann on 1/20/2015 9:27 PM PST
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What’s changed for rogues in Warlords?
What are the latest things that Blizzard has said about rogues?
Where all my guides at?
If you're at Level 100, there are a few sources of pretty good rogue guides. I should know: I've written some of them. :)
Edited by Rfeann on 1/20/2015 9:51 PM PST
PvE at Level 100: Basic Questions and Answers
I'll keep this small to start, and I'll add stuff as I spot new questions that feel common or relevant enough. (And as time allows. :) ) Please nominate questions you'd like to see added!
How are rogues looking in end-game PvE?
It's been an up-and-down start to the expansion for raiding rogues. We got off to a middling start: Up until mid-December, rogues were generally right around the middle of the pack, but were behind most other melee DPS (warriors, death knights, feral druids, etc.). Then, a string of hotfixes from December through early January skyrocketed rogue specs to the upper slots on many DPS charts.
That said, remember that mileage will vary. Averages are just that; from raid to raid, and from fight to fight, you personally may do extremely well or extremely badly depending on a whole host of factors, including how well you're geared, how well you play, what your raid group's strategy is, how much experience you have on that raid fight, what spec you choose, and so on.
What's the best spec for raiding?
All three specs are probably within about 10% of one another in terms of performance, though, so you'll usually be OK whichever one you choose.
How about dungeons?
If all that matters to you is looking good on DPS meters while killing trash... well, firstly, stop being so vain and petty, that kind of thing doesn't matter and doesn't make you more likely to be respected by others. But Combat with Blade Flurry on will usually rack up the highest numbers whenever you're fighting several non-boss mobs at once.
What if I'm just questing or killing stuff by myself?
What weapons should I use?
For Combat, it's best to have a "slow weapon" -- e.g., one-handed axes, fist weapons, maces or swords -- in each hand. (If you played Combat in Mists, you'll remember that daggers were almost interchangeable with slow weapons in your off-hand throughout much of the expansion. That's not really the case anymore in Warlords.)
For Subtlety, it's best to have a dagger in both hands. If you have only one decent dagger, though, put your slow weapon in the *off-hand* when you raid -- you'll lose some poison damage, but because you can only Backstab with a dagger (and Backstab is much stronger than Hemorrhage), you want to keep a dagger in your main-hand if it's at all possible.
What stats do I care about?
Among the secondary stats -- critical strike (crit), haste, mastery, multistrike and versatility -- all of them are good, but some are better than others depending on your spec and the gear your rogue is wearing.
Use ShadowCraft -- http://shadowcraft.mmo-mumble.com -- to find out which stats are currently the most important for your rogue.
For the most part, the "best" secondary stats are mastery for Assassination, haste for Combat and multistrike for Subtlety. But again, use ShadowCraft to determine the best stats for your rogue at the moment -- and to help decide whether new gear drops are upgrades or not, as well as which enchants and gems are best to use.
If you switch specs often and don't want to set up different sets of gear, consider going with multistrike for your enchants and gems. It's the most solid secondary stat across the three specs, whereas other secondary stats tend to be relatively weak for at least one spec.
Edited by Rfeann on 1/20/2015 9:50 PM PST
Once the "Basic Questions" section above begins to fill up, I'll start adding more specific, nitty-gritty type questions and answers here. Or maybe not. The world is a magical and unpredictable place!
Edited by Rfeann on 12/22/2014 11:18 PM PST
Voted for sticky.
Verelyse describes state of rogue QQ:Lol. XD
Tossed in a couple more links from my super-secret list and tweaked the formatting a bit. Please reply with any and all forum threads and outside resources you feel are worth letting other rogues know about; I hope this can ultimately grow into a useful reference tool for advice-seekers and advice-givers alike. (Or it can be met with utter disgust and fall completely flat. Whichever.)
Thanks for starting and maintaining it.
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The bad news, we're going to have to increase your taxes by 4.78%.
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Edited by Caera on 2/19/2011 10:07 PM PST
Added a few outside links (Shadow Panther, Encrypted Text), as well as Aeriwen's leveling FAQ (so sorry, Aeriwen -- I forgot about your freaking *sticky*!) and Gerwulf's subtlety PvE videos. Also did another formatting pass to make the lists more readable.
Pretty light on Combat-related stuff at the moment, so if y'all have threads or outside resources to recommend... please do. :) I'm also considering adding a section that links to thoughtful, constructive threads or individual posts that discuss controversial/ongoing issues in rogueness, such as the value of expertise as Assassination or the places where Sap doesn't work quite right. If you remember any specific posts that explained or discussed these issues especially well, please pass 'em along!
Added a link to WoWWiki's rogue macro page, which is one of the most complete lists I've been able to find. If anybody knows of better, though -- or wants to start a thread that's even betterer -- that would be swell.
Also, a repeat call for the stuff I mentioned just above: more Combat resources you know of, as well as threads/posts on these forums in which people talk to each other in a normal, human, productive, non-abusive manner about debate-worthy rogue issues or about bugs/difficulties affecting our class.
I've added another two links to the Sub PvE section (Pikawho's guide and Synek's overview in the EU forums), along with a note about why I've got so many links related to a spec that isn't even considered raid-viable. Any sub PvE rogues out there have feelings on which of the four guides I list is better or worse from a helpfulness/accuracy standpoint?
I've also added Ten Ton Hammer's broad overview of the entire rogue class. It's one of few umbrella-type looks at rogueness as a whole, and while it may be out of date in spots, it's still a great first step for anybody who's new to the class, considering rolling a rogue, or brushing off their rogues after a long hiatus.
Please reply with link recommendations or criticisms! This thread is still very light on Combat stuff.
p.s.: Truewann, quit changing the name of your PvP guide every other day. :P
Edited by Rfeann on 2/22/2011 10:27 AM PST
Ha! Thanks. Yeah, since I'm not cool enough to make the news (or start the great forum threads), I figure I might as well just report on it. :)
Hey Tru, I'm considering adding this still-new thread to the mix:
Combat?! PVP viable?
I figure that since Combat PvP tends to suffer from the same knowledge gap as Subtlety PvE, it helps to provide folks with a link to good discussions even if they're not comprehensive guides. But I also don't know Combat from a hole in the ground. In your opinion, is the info in that thread mostly helpful so far? (Celinne, if you're out there, I'd love your take as well.)
Edited by Rfeann on 2/22/2011 12:35 PM PST
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