Topic (Sticky) Roguedom: Common PvE Rogue Qs & As
Edited by Rfeann on 5/6/13 12:26 PM (PDT)
(Last updated April 15, 2013.)
Leveling. Dungeons. Raiding. Class changes. Transmogrification. Stealth. Secrecy. Poison. Murder. Deceit. There's so much to know about being a rogue! It's exhausting. What's an aspiring ninja -- or a grizzled sensai in need of news and info -- to do?
Nothing. You're screwed. You'll never be any good.
Oh! Sorry; force of forum habit -- I meant the opposite of that.
In this sticky (which actually spans a number of threads, so don't be alarmed if you end up far from where you started), I’ll do my best to answer commonly asked questions on a wide range of topics relevant to every level and breed of rogue.
Have a basic rogue question not answered in the list below? Ask away here: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8770047002
==Recent/Upcoming Rogue Changes and News==
==PvE: Leveling From 1 to 90==
( all answers at http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2369742267#5 )
==PvE at 90: Preparing for (and Succeeding in) Dungeons and Raids==
==Transmogrification: It’s Not Just for Frankenstein Anymore==
( all answers at http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2369742267#18 )
==PvP: Murdering, Frustrating and Otherwise Inconveniencing Other Players==
(Word of warning: None of the info in here has yet been updated for Mists. So sorry for the delay!)
==Past Rogue Changes==
Feel free to flip me the bird at @SvelteKumquat, spam my blog at redrattedrogue.wordpress.com or harass me at firstname.lastname@example.org if you've got any suggestions, corrections or general death threats. I look forward to completely ignoring your messages.
Edited by Rfeann on 4/9/13 9:55 AM (PDT)
PvE Guides: Questing, Leveling, Heroics, Raiding
This post once existed. In fact, it more than existed: It was virtually the entire point of the thread. Back in the day *before* the day, when the WoW forums had just been wiped away and recreated anew -- and before there were oodles of amazing rogue stickies and well-established reference threads -- this post was titled "A Guide to Guides; a Thread of Threads," and it linked to all the supercool and useful stuff buried within the nether regions of this forum (and other sites).
But then people within this forum made super guides. And they got stickied. And the guide to guides became less important, what with because of the thing where the guides were listed right there next to the guide to the guides, and redundancy is hilarious but also redundantly repetitive.
So instead this turned into an FAQ covering commonly asked rogue topics. And so it remains to this day.
Edited by Rfeann on 8/27/12 9:31 PM (PDT)
PvP Guides: Murdering, Frustrating and Otherwise Inconveniencing Your Player Opponents
This page has been temporarily removed from this thread for violating at least 35 separate Swiss laws of decency, and for taking candy from a baby.
Edited by Rfeann on 8/28/12 11:07 AM (PDT)
Fun Stuff and Random Bits of Helpfulness/Thoughtfulness
Thoughtful (From the Cataclysm Era):
Voted for sticky.
Verelyse describes state of rogue QQ:Lol. XD
Tossed in a couple more links from my super-secret list and tweaked the formatting a bit. Please reply with any and all forum threads and outside resources you feel are worth letting other rogues know about; I hope this can ultimately grow into a useful reference tool for advice-seekers and advice-givers alike. (Or it can be met with utter disgust and fall completely flat. Whichever.)
Edited by Caera on 2/19/11 10:07 PM (PST)
Thanks for starting and maintaining it.
I have good news and bad news:
We're willing to increase your wages by 5% on top of your already 1G.
The bad news, we're going to have to increase your taxes by 4.78%.
But it comes with a free frogurt!
Added a few outside links (Shadow Panther, Encrypted Text), as well as Aeriwen's leveling FAQ (so sorry, Aeriwen -- I forgot about your freaking *sticky*!) and Gerwulf's subtlety PvE videos. Also did another formatting pass to make the lists more readable.
Pretty light on Combat-related stuff at the moment, so if y'all have threads or outside resources to recommend... please do. :) I'm also considering adding a section that links to thoughtful, constructive threads or individual posts that discuss controversial/ongoing issues in rogueness, such as the value of expertise as Assassination or the places where Sap doesn't work quite right. If you remember any specific posts that explained or discussed these issues especially well, please pass 'em along!
Added a link to WoWWiki's rogue macro page, which is one of the most complete lists I've been able to find. If anybody knows of better, though -- or wants to start a thread that's even betterer -- that would be swell.
Also, a repeat call for the stuff I mentioned just above: more Combat resources you know of, as well as threads/posts on these forums in which people talk to each other in a normal, human, productive, non-abusive manner about debate-worthy rogue issues or about bugs/difficulties affecting our class.
Edited by Rfeann on 2/22/11 10:27 AM (PST)
I've added another two links to the Sub PvE section (Pikawho's guide and Synek's overview in the EU forums), along with a note about why I've got so many links related to a spec that isn't even considered raid-viable. Any sub PvE rogues out there have feelings on which of the four guides I list is better or worse from a helpfulness/accuracy standpoint?
I've also added Ten Ton Hammer's broad overview of the entire rogue class. It's one of few umbrella-type looks at rogueness as a whole, and while it may be out of date in spots, it's still a great first step for anybody who's new to the class, considering rolling a rogue, or brushing off their rogues after a long hiatus.
Please reply with link recommendations or criticisms! This thread is still very light on Combat stuff.
p.s.: Truewann, quit changing the name of your PvP guide every other day. :P
Edited by Rfeann on 2/22/11 12:35 PM (PST)
Ha! Thanks. Yeah, since I'm not cool enough to make the news (or start the great forum threads), I figure I might as well just report on it. :)
Hey Tru, I'm considering adding this still-new thread to the mix:
Combat?! PVP viable?
I figure that since Combat PvP tends to suffer from the same knowledge gap as Subtlety PvE, it helps to provide folks with a link to good discussions even if they're not comprehensive guides. But I also don't know Combat from a hole in the ground. In your opinion, is the info in that thread mostly helpful so far? (Celinne, if you're out there, I'd love your take as well.)