Topic (Sticky) This Month in Nerfed Raiding - Apr. 5, 2012
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
Edited by Briony on 4/12/12 12:39 PM (PDT)
THIS MONTH IN NERFED DRAGON SOUL RAIDING by Briony Eddon

CAVERNS OF TIME, TANARIS - April 5, 2012
We are currently in the 15% increased damage buff phase with Dragon Soul raiding. More and more guilds are taking down Heroic versions of bosses, which means more loot for everyone involved. Congratulations to Pie Vendor [A] for killing every boss on Heroic mode with 10-men. Interestingly enough, Horde guilds have defeated 6 Heroic bosses with 25-men, while Alliance guilds have only defeated 2. However, Horde guilds have only defeated 3 Heroic bosses with 10-men, while Alliance guilds have defeated 30. I wonder if Shadowsong is unique in this breakdown or if we are just like every other server out there? The 20% buff comes out soon, see you next month!

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25-MAN RAID PROGRESSION: (current tier)

# | GUILD NAME | FACTION | DRAGON SOUL | POINTS
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Mor Zon Yor Hag Ult Bla DW1 DW2 | 19 |

1. Icon [H] ** **~ **~ ** **~ **~ . . | 16 | --
2. Atrum Mortis [A] *~ . . *~ . . . . | 12 | --
3. Artifice [H] *~ . . . . .~ .~ .~ | 11 | -1
4. Asylum [A] . . . . . . . . | 10 | --



10-MAN RAID PROGRESSION: (current tier)

# | GUILD NAME | FACTION | DRAGON SOUL | POINTS
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Mor Zon Yor Hag Ult Bla DW1 DW2 | 19 |

1. Pie Vendor [A] ** ** ** **~ ** **~ **~ **~ | 18 | --
2. Unami [A] * *~ *~ *~ *~ *~ *~ . | 17 | +2
3. Annuit Coeptis [A] * *~ *~ *~ *~ *~ . . | 16 | --
. Counterpoint [A] * *~ *~ *~ *~ *~ . . | 16 | -2
5. BRB Need Ammo [H] *~ . *~ . *~ . .~ .~ | 11 | +5
. Imprint [A] * . . . . . . . | 11 | --
. Temple of Light[A] *~ . . . . . . . | 11 | --
. The Die Is Cast[A] * . . . . . . . | 11 | --
9. Tresspass [H] . . . . . . . . | 10 | -1
10. Square One [H] . . . . . . .~ | 7 | -1



KEY:
. normal kill
* heroic kill
** heroic "server first" kill
.~ nerfed normal kill
*~ nerfed heroic kill
**~ nerfed heroic "server first" kill
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
Edited by Briony on 11/30/11 8:01 AM (PST)
INTRODUCTION:
- Welcome to the 10 & 25-man Shadowsong Raid Progression thread!
- The purpose of this thread is to provide an extremely easy "at a glance" view of current tier 10 & 25-man raid progression.
- When a new raiding tier is released or the current raiding tier is significantly nerfed, the current stats are frozen and a new list is started.

POINTS:
- All normal bosses are worth 1 point; except the final boss of each tiered instance who is worth 3.
- All heroic bosses are worth 2 points; except the final boss of each tiered instance who is worth 5.
- The +1, -3, --, etc. after the points denote the number of ranks a guild has gained or lost since last week.
- Guilds who share the same number of points will be listed in alphabetical order after considering any server-first heroic kills.

DOTS & ASTERICKS:
- A small dot (.) denotes a kill on normal difficulty.
- A larger asterick (*) denotes a kill on heroic difficulty.
- Two large astericks (**) denote a server-first kill on heroic difficulty.

KILL SUBMISSION:
- You must be L85 and in the guild you are submitting a kill for.
- 10-man, normal difficulty is assumed unless stated otherwise.
- The rankings are updated roughly twice a week.

10-MAN VS. 25-MAN
- Guilds will be listed on EITHER the 10-man list OR the 25-man list, not both.
- 25-man kills will take priority over 10-man kills.

GUILD DE-LISTING:
- If you do not wish your guild to be listed, and you are the Guild Leader, reply to this thread and I will remove your guild during the next update.
- If your guild merges with another guild, the guild which loses the name in the merger will be removed.
- If your guild stops raiding (i.e. you cannot form a 10-man guild raid on a weekly basis), it may be removed from the list.

Current Tier Key:

DRAGON SOUL
MOR: Morchok
ZON: Warlord Zon'ozz
YOR: Tor'sahj the Unsleeping
HAG: Hagara the Binder
ULT: Ultraxion
BLA: Warmaster Blackhorn
DW1: Deathwing (Spine)
DW2: Deathwing (Madness)


Previous Tier Key:

FIRELANDS
BETH: Beth'tilac
RHYO: Lord Rhyolith
ALYS: Alysrazor
SHAN: Shannox
BALE: Baleroc
MAJO: Majordomo Staghelm
RAGN: Ragnaros

THRONE OF THE FOUR WINDS
Wi: Conclave of Wind
Al: Al'Akir

BLACKWING DESCENT
Mg: Magmaw
Tx: Toxitron
Ma: Maloriak
At: Atramedes
Ch: Chimaeron
Ne: Nefarian

BASTION OF TWILIGHT
Ha: Halfus Wyrmbreaker
Va: Valiona
El: Elementium Monstrosity
Cg: Cho'gall
Sn: Sinestra
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
Edited by Briony on 8/17/11 9:17 PM (PDT)
MOTD: Archived on June 28, 2011 when Patch 4.2 (Tier 12) was Released.

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25-MAN RAID PROGRESSION: (Tier 11)

# | GUILD NAME | THRONE | BLACKWING DESCENT | BASTION | POINTS
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Wi Al | Mg Tx Ma At Ch Ne | Ha Va El Cg Sn |

1. Asylum [A] . . | * . * * * . | * * . . | 24 | --
2. Anomaly [A] . . | * . * * * . | * . . . | 23 | --
3. Icon [H] . | * * * * * . | * * . . | 22 | --
4. Atrum Mortis [A] . . | * . . * * . | * . . . | 22 | --
5. Adrenaline [A] . . | . . . * . . | * . . . | 20 | --
6. Artifice [H] . | . . . . . . | . . . . | 15 | --
7. BlackList [H] . | . . . . . | . . . . | 12 | --
8. Adrenaline [A] | . . . | | 3 | --
9. Strange Mojo [H] . | . | | 2 | --


10-MAN RAID PROGRESSION: (Tier 11)

# | GUILD NAME | THRONE | BLACKWING DESCENT | BASTION | POINTS
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Wi Al | Mg Tx Ma At Ch Ne | Ha Va El Cg Sn |

1. Pie Vendor [A] * . | * . * * * . | * * . * | 27 | --
. Stratagem [H] * . | * . * * * * | * * . . | 27 | --
3. Icon [H] . . | * . * * * . | * * . . | 24 | --
. Full Circle [H] . . | * . * * * . | * * . . | 24 | --
5. Artifice [H] . . | . . . . . . | * . . . | 19 | --
. Trespass [H] . . | . . . . . . | * . . . | 19 | --
7. BlackList [H] . . | . . . . . . | . . . . | 18 | --
. The Die Is C [A] . . | . . . . . . | . . . . | 18 | --
9. Do Work [A] . | . . . . . . | * . . . | 16 | --
10. Redridge CC. [A] . | . . . . . | . . . . | 12 | --
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
Edited by Briony on 9/21/11 7:03 PM (PDT)
MOTD: Archived on September 20, 2011 when Patch 4.3 (Tier 13) was Announced and Patch 4.2 (Tier 12) was Nerfed.

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25-MAN RAID PROGRESSION: (Tier 12)

# | GUILD NAME | FACTION | FIRELANDS | POINTS
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Beth Rhyo Alys Shan Bale Majo Ragn | 17 |

1. Asylum [A] . ** . ** . . . | 11 | --
. Icon [H] . * . * . . . | 11 | --
3. Adrenaline [A] . . . . . . | 6 | --
. Atrum Mortis [A] . . . . . . | 6 | --
5. Annuit Coeptis [A] . . . . . | 5 | --
. Artifice [H] . . . . . | 5 | --


10-MAN RAID PROGRESSION: (Tier 12)

# | GUILD NAME | FACTION | FIRELANDS | POINTS
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Beth Rhyo Alys Shan Bale Majo Ragn | 17 |

1. Pie Vendor [A] ** ** ** * ** * . | 15 | --
2. Imprint [A] . * . ** . ** . | 12 | --
3. Annuit Coeptis [A] . . . * . . . | 10 | --
. Full Circle [H] . . . * . . . | 10 | --
5. Artifice [H] . . . . . . . | 9 | --
. The Die is Cast[A] . . . . . . . | 9 | --
7. Do Work [A] . . . . . . | 6 | --
. Icon [H] . . . . | 6 | --
. Stratagem [H] . . . . . . | 6 | --
. Tresspass [H] . . . . . . | 6 | --
11. Splode [A] . . . . . | 5 | --
12. Temple of Light[A] . . | 2 | --
13. Redridge CC. [A] . | 1 | --



KEY:
. denotes normal kill
* denotes heroic kill
** denotes heroic server first kill
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
SAVED FOR FUTURE USE!
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
SAVED FOR FUTURE USE!
Yueying
Shadowsong
Yueying
85 Night Elf Priest
13665
Edited by Yueying on 2/25/11 11:03 AM (PST)
If you are listing only 25 man guilds, you probably should de-list pie vendor. We are only interested in doing progression in 10s. If we do raid in 25s it will probably likely just to do things on farm or because we're bored or on alts. thank you! :)

Now... if anyone wants to start 10s thread then totally list us :)
Redeadx
Shadowsong
Redeadx
85 Undead Rogue
13015
MOTD: Data should be synced from old thread. Please post the latest updates!


Damn, that data is well over 1.5 months old... old thread ended a long while ago.

We have (Normal):
- Cho'gall
- Nef

(Heroic):
- Halfus
- Chim
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
- <Pie Vendor> removed from list. (Yueying)
- <Icon> updated. (Redeadx)
- Sticky Post successful.


Note: I will update the list daily until we are completely up-to-date, then I will move to weekly updates.

Question: One of the issues we had with the old Raid Progression threads was determining when to remove guilds from the list, if at all. My proposal is to remove guilds from the list who have not posted a new 25-man kill in 30 days time. New could be Nefarian for the first time, or Magmaw on Heroic-mode for the first time. Thoughts?
Redeadx
Shadowsong
Redeadx
85 Undead Rogue
13015
Edited by Redeadx on 2/25/11 6:19 PM (PST)
02/25/2011 2:58 PMPosted by Briony
One of the issues we had with the old Raid Progression threads was determining when to remove guilds from the list, if at all.


Don't unless the guild doesn't wish to be listed (Breaks accuracy though), or the guild disbands or merges into a different name.

Example:

Envious + Icon = Icon.

Remove Envious from list, as it's no longer it's own guild.


My proposal is to remove guilds from the list who have not posted a new 25-man kill in 30 days time. New could be Nefarian for the first time, or Magmaw on Heroic-mode for the first time. Thoughts?


No. It will destroy accuracy and such.

Example:

Icon was working more than a month on Heroic Lichking 25man in Wrath. 30 days = 4 raid weeks. Took most guilds much longer to down him, with your idea, Icon would have been removed due to 'Inactivity' and other guilds would be bumped higher, despite not actually being as progressed.


(I only used Icon as an example as I know these examples firsthand)
Stormraught
Shadowsong
Stormraught
85 Human Mage
10405
Kill List for Asylum :3

Normals:

THRONE OF THE FOUR WINDS
Wi: Conclave of Wind

BLACKWING DESCENT
Mg: Magmaw
Tx: Toxitron
Ma: Maloriak
At: Atramedes
Ch: Chimaeron

BASTION OF TWILIGHT
Ha: Halfus Wyrmbreaker
Va: Valiona
El: Elementium Monstrosity
Cg: Cho'gall

Heroics: nawp not yet.
Archimedes
Shadowsong
Archimedes
85 Human Paladin
9520
AM killed Chimaeron back on January 14.
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
Edited by Briony on 2/27/11 12:56 AM (PST)
- <Asylum> updated.
- <Atrum Mortis> updated.
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
If I were to make a separate 10-man progression list (not integrated with the 25-man list, but listed right below the 25-man list), would the community be interested? I have a feeling that updates are going to be few and far between for the 25-man list, and as it turns out I do check the Realm Forums at least once a day.

If there's enough activity, I could promise Tuesday and Friday updates at the very least with the possibility of daily updates as long as everyone is calm, cool, and collected about the rankings.

Thoughts?
Aprilla
Shadowsong
Aprilla
85 Human Mage
11375
If you're crazy enough to do it ( i think so and approve, the history of Artifice in the recruitment post, very nice) then do so! If we have a couple bad apples turning these threads into pissing contests and pages of trolling, us community folk can deal with them now :)
Stormraught
Shadowsong
Stormraught
85 Human Mage
10405
Nef downcakes :3
Briony
Shadowsong
Briony
85 Blood Elf Mage
7185
- <Asylum> updated.
- All kills will be assumed to be on Normal difficulty unless otherwise stated.
- Now accepting 10-man kills. Same rules apply, must be L85 and in the guild you are submitting kills for.
- First 10-man update will be tomorrow morning to give time for guilds to post their kills.
Demônlock
Shadowsong
Demônlock
85 Human Warlock
13305
Edited by Demônlock on 3/1/11 5:21 PM (PST)
Pie Vendor has cleared all 10 man normal content with Nef being our last kill as of Feb 23rd.

edit:fixed the date....thanks for pointing that out Dinth ;p
Dinth
Shadowsong
Dinth
85 Goblin Rogue
13005
03/01/2011 2:38 PMPosted by Demônlock
Pie Vendor has cleared all 10 man normal content with Nef being are last kill as of Feb 30th.


You leaped a leap year! zomg!

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